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Is there a fuel pump access panel in 8th gen like there was in 7th gen?
 
#4 ·
Wrong!

There is a fuel pump access cover under the trunk carpet, close to the rear seat. Pull through carpet back and you will see it there. When I did my system last summer I ran some wire under the trunk carpet and saw it there.
 
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Wonder if it's a later vs earlier thing... Maybe the 2012 driveline change included access for the fuel pump in the trunk??

I don't have one in my 2009 SS. I also don't make blanket statements about a rig that was in production for 11 years with a major mid-production drivetrain re-tool.
 
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That's a Pontiac. Early W-Body yes... Early Gen 8 Chevy W-Body NO...

All kinds of weird changes get made to save money or correct perceived design deficiencies....
GM made MAJOR changes to the driveline for 2012 along with some seemingly odd little changes like the leather shift knob on some trim levels.
Which W-Bodies between 1998 & 2016 got the CF174 Under rain-tray/heater-intake-plenum splash filter next to the cabin filter? My 09 SS has it. Lots of others don't... even some other 09 SS cars. You can add one if you want it. I've never seen a reason that some got it while others didn't. Dry climate doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I've found em and not found em on Gen 8 Impala Rentals from The Desert Southwest to The Northeast and the Pacific Northwest to Miami and everywhere in-between. Trim levels from Base models to LTZ & SS sometimes had em and other times didn't. As I said seemingly no Rhyme or Reason
The Early T800 chassis trucks got a cabin filter but GM decided to '86' it on the later T800 & T900 chassis trucks. Enterprising owners can add it back with a few odd parts and a Dremel. There are many more examples...

To the OP. LOOK!!! It's the only way you're going to find out for sure.
Post back here what you find and what year & trim-level your rig is. I'd be interested to know. Maybe we can figure out what years and or trims got an access plate in the trunk.

If you're ballsey get a plate off a Gen 7 and cut an access hole in the floor in your Gen 8 with a plasma cutter with the tank removed.
 
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That's a Pontiac. Early W-Body yes... Early Gen 8 Chevy W-Body NO...
I agree. My 02 Impalas have it. But not my 07 nor my 2013.


Enterprising owners can add it back with a few odd parts and a Dremel. There are many more examples...
That's tempting, but I can't help wondering if it was deleted due to a safety concern rather than for cost savings. I'd love to get the inside scoop on it :)

Doug

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#11 ·
I stand corrected... The shape and setting for the cutout is there, however, there is filler slathered across the area...

I suppose if one felt so inclined, you could cut and use the factory cover setup and make this happen. Probably not something I would be inclined to do.

So I stand corrected and apologize for making blanket statements about a rig that was in production for 11 years with a major mid-production drivetrain re-tool. When I did my stereo system install, I was more concerned about neatly routing and tucking wiring and just glanced at the spot at where the cutout is. Didn't give it a second thought really...
 

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#12 ·
No big deal. And thanks for updating us.

When I looked this morning, at first glance, I thought there might be a panel under that slather.

And if you guys keep saying to cut that hole out, you're gonna talk me into it :) Seriously, I would want to drop the tank first, if I was gonna try it. At which point, I could change the pump or sending unit and would likely never need access again :)

Doug

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The EPA has a bunch to do with the lack of choice.
It costs an extortionate amount of money, into tens of millions of dollars, to test the engine and driveline group for regulatory compliance... It has to be re-tested as if it's a completely different engine if you put it in a slightly different chassis or even make a simple change like a different output gear ratio in the rear axle or transaxle differential.

The HooHaah about VW using multiple fuel maps dependent on driving conditions was the regulators flexing their muscles. The powertrain engineers used several different fuel maps to control emissions at a reasonable level under varying driving conditions without completely killing engine performance.
The fact that one of those conditions was closely related to the IM240 test bed exposed the FACT that the IM240 isn't simulating real-world driving conditions. It's very controlled. A fuel map can be developed to meet certain specs under those very controlled conditions.
The real world isn't a closed and controlled system like these ivory tower armchair experts would like to believe or even create... VW and various engineers at VW paid a heavy price for exposing the fact that the Emperor has no clothes.
The quiet murmurs, for now, from the top-down regulator/administrator class, otherwise known as bureaucrats, that "we should be working toward self-driving cars under a central traffic admin" ain't to help us... it's about allowing the bureaucrats building another agency feifdom to exert additional control over how the serfs live. The unfortunate truth is that You and I are the serfs in their eyes.
Working on this kind of tech is fun for many engineers and they don't step back to see the leviathan they are creating under the purposeful direction of the extremely clever and manipulative, but not very bright, bureaucrats.
 
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The HooHaah about VW using multiple fuel maps dependent on driving conditions was the regulators flexing their muscles.
There was a German VW executive who was detained here in the US in this matter, and spent most of 2017 in jail. He was supposed to get out late last year, but I haven't seen any updates on the story.

In the wake of this, I couldn't help but wonder if there weren't some tight @$$ed engineers in Kokomo :) What the VW guys did is right out of Nascar - I can't help wondering if the guys at GM (or Ford or Chrysler) haven't pulled some tricks in their code, too :)

Doug

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I Had To Go For it Fuel Pump Access 2006 Impala LS

This is the marker for the fuel tank located in truck floor closest to back seat(First Picture)
Fuel Pump is Located in the middle of the ovel Starting from Middle going to the bottom ending at backseat support frame.(Second Picture)
 

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