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2003 3.4 - Radiator replacement notes

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#1 · (Edited)
In case anyone needs a radiator replaced before winter, I did this yesterday in my 2003 3.4, wasn't too bad, here are some notes, but no where near as helpful as the how-to:

Footnotes - 3.4 2003 Impala Radiator replacement.

1) Tools needed:
Cable activated hose clamp piers (not required but a HUGE time saver)
Metric sockets/ratchets
Small screwdriver for Trans cooler line retaining clips
Pliers
Metric line wrenches or open ended wrenches for cooler lines.

2) Parts:
Radiator (Raked over coals for 133 bucks @ Autozone, but car not worth a better brand).
New upper/lower Radiator hoses (Optional, might as well, while it's apart. My lower was getting thin so I replaced it.)
Dex-Cool (Orange) AntiFreeze
New Radiator cap (Maybe optional? If yours doesn't look so hot?)

Notes - Wait til engine has cooled down. I jacked up front of car and secured on jackstands, this helped
immensely. You will need to spend a little time under the car to get to everything. Also, my
radiator did not have a coolant level sensor on it like some of the other year/makes/models. From beg to end
not counting time to get parts, this took me about 2 hours.

1) Remove angled cross members going from front to back of the hood. There is one on each side of the
engine bay, going at a 45 degree angle front to back. One goes over the battery,
the other over the airbox. Airbox is in three sections, from rear to front of car:
rear section houses aircleaner, middle
section joins the middle to the back where the PCM computer module is, and then the front portion
houses the PCM and routes to the inside of the driver's side headbulb. You may have to remove the
driver side headlamp assembly to jostle the airbox loose. Do not mess with or disconnect the PCM
wires at all - it should all be moveable just to get it out of your way.

2) Disconnect battery cables, disconnect battery hold down, and remove the battery. You will have to remove from an angle, it's a tight squeeze.

3) Loosen clamp @ air box connecting the snorkel going from the throtte body to the airbox itself.
Move snorkel out of your way.

4) Unclip the air cleaner housing (two clips, then lift up).

5) Remove air cleaner.

6) Loosen and remove screws @ top of airbox holding airbox to the remainder of the airbox housing.
Remove middle section.

7) Move the airbox/PCM enough to gain easier access to upper radiator hose and electric fans.

8) Remove the lower air dam underneath the bumper - 4 10mm bolts secure it in place.

9) Remove the radiator cap.

10) Disconnect the lower radiator hose from the radiator. This will drain your antifreeze, so make sure
you can catch it or drain it somewhere safe away from you and pets, grass, etc. This is where the
cable activated pliers come in the most handy.

11) On each side of the front of the hood, you will see two brackets securing the front motor mounts to
the core support. Loosen and remove the three bolts on each side, and swing the brackets out of your
way. The engine might move a little when you do this - that is ok since it is meant to pivot.

12) Disconnect hose at radiator leading to the coolant overflow reservoir.

13) Disconnect upper radiator hose from the radiator using pliers.

14) You should have somewhat easier access to the electric fans now. You will see two plugs going into
your elec. fans. Mark each one so you know which side they go on. Unclamp the harness from the fan,
then remove the plugs from each side of the fan. Make sure the harness is completely free from the
fans.

15) Loosen the two transmission cooler lines from the radiator. 19 MM line wrench will do the job. On
the bottom of the fan assembly, there is a bracket securing the cooler lines. Carefully pry the lines
out of the bracket.

16) Four bolts and a pin secure the fans to your radiator. Two bolts are on each side of the fan assembly,
and two are at the top held in with brackets. Note how the upper brackets are assembled. The bottom
pin will pop out with a screw driver, you will see it on the driver's side bottom portion of the
fan assembly. Loosen and remove all brackets, bolts, and pin from fan assembly.

17) Gently lift the fan assembly out of the engine bay and carefully set aside.

18) The radiator should come out next. Gently lift it out of engine bay. At this point, it's the
easiest time to set up your new upper/lower rad hose, or you can wait until #25. The bottom rubber
mounts may or may not come with it, but make sure the new radiator has mounts on it. More to come
later on that.

19) The new radiator I purchased came with new cooler line fittings. In order to replace the existing
cooler line fittings, you will see a small metal clip retaining the fittings on the lines. Take a
tiny screwdriver, and pry the retaining rings off of the cooler line fittings. Once the little retaining clips are off, the existing fittings should pop right off. Follow the instructions that
come with the new fittings to replace. Take your time and read carefully, you don't want to deal
with cooler line leaks.

20) The bottom of the radiator should have two rubber mounts that slide right onto the radiaor.
Make sure the bottom radiator mounts are secured onto your new radiator. Lower new radiator into the
engine bay, and make sure it's secure.

21) Next, install the elec fans back onto the new radiator with the four mounting bolts. You could do
this before you install the radiator, but I had an easier time lowering the radiator in, and then
attaching the fans to the radiator while it was in the engine bay. When it's all said and done,
the fans and the radiator are an assembly, attached to eachother with bolts and brackets.

22) Tighten and secure the trans cooler lines onto your new radiator. Finger tighten as much as you can
first in order to prevent cross threading of the new lines. I was able to finger tighten mine quite
a bit before wrench tightening. Be careful, cross threading will void any warranty. Make sure the
lines are also secured in the bracket on the bottom of the fans.

23) Replace fan plugs and secure fan wiring harness back onto the fan assembly. Make sure wires are
free and clear of any moving parts, and that you plugged them back in the same exact place.

24) Reconnect the two upper motor mount to core support brackets from step 11 - you may need to
carefully pry the engine forward to secure the three bolts on each side.

25) Replace and/or re-attach lower radiator hose, upper radiator hose.

26) Reassemble the air box assembly, and re-attach the snorkel to your airbox. Make sure this is
secure to prevent any malfunction of MAP sensor or IAT sensor. Verify the airbox and snorkel is
assembled and secure.

27) Place battery back into engine compartment. Re-attach battery cables.

28) Put the lower airdam back into place underneath the bumper.

29) Reattach cross member brackets in engine bay. Recall there is one on each side, driver and passenger.
30) Reattach the overflow tank hose to new radiator. You may need a new clamp, I did since the OEM
radiator had a slightly smaller inlet.

31) Double check to make sure you re-installed all hoses and wiring.

32) Dilute Dex-Cool 50/50 if not already diluted and fill up the overflow tank slightly above the fill
line. Might took roughtly 1.5 gallons of diluted antifreeze when it was all said and done.

33) Fill up the radiator as much as possible with 50/50 Dex Cool mix. Put Radiator cap on.

34) Start car with heater on. Run for approx 15 seconds. Remove radiator cap, and fill radiator to top.

35) Replace cap. Fill overflow tank to fill line if necessary.

36) Slightly loosen the bleed fitting on the thermostat housing. You have air in your cooling system,
and so it needs to be bled.

37) Start car, and let run with heater running as well. Note the temp on the dashboard. Do not overheat.
The goal here is to bleed the cooling system, and fill as needed. If you are not getting heat after
your engine is running to temp (approx 180-210 degrees), then you either are low on coolant, and/or there
is excessive air in the system.

38) Once the bleeder on the thermostat is bleeding some coolant without air bubbles, then your system
is close to bled. You will know if there's air in the system if you hear gurgling coming from under
the dashboard. It took me approx 20 minutes to get all air out of the cooling system. Re-tighten the
bleeder screw. Make sure the bleeder screw is not left loosened while operating the vehicle.

39) Let the car run with the heat on. Check for leaks at all hoses as well. Confirm that your elec.
fans are running as well. If you have steady engine temp, no leaks, good heat, fans running, no gurgling, and a properly filled overflow tank, you should be good to go.
 
#4 ·
I know this is kind of backwards of me, since I'm looking this up after I did the job, but I must say that that's a pretty comprehensive writeup you've done. It's pretty much spot on. Should be of great benefit to 7th Gen owners.

I think your parts list is worth more attention because I think at MINIMUM, they should be replaced with the radiator.

One thing I have to add, which I'm not sure if it was common knowledge or not, but running straight water is better for consistent cooling. When I took my car out for it's maiden run after the radiator was replaced I ran pure water and the temperature never once moved off 185* - even when sitting in traffic. I drove it like that for a day while making sure there were no leaks or any other reason to pull it back apart. I put the antifreeze in today (Dex-Cool) and even after burping the system, my temps will go between 185 and 210-ish (when the fans come on). It worried me, so I looked it up and from what I've seen it's normal that an antifreeze mix runs hotter than straight water.
 
#5 ·
It Worked

I don't know who you are or what you do for a living, but I am really glad you took the time to log these instructions on replacing the Impala radiator. I did mine this week - yes, it took me way longer than two hours - and I followed your notes like a cookbook. The only time I had trouble was when I needed to locate the bleed valve. Fortunately, there are lots of them on Google Images. I may need to change my AC condensor next - but I'll wait till you have a chance to do yours. . .
 
#6 ·
2003 Chevrolet radiator swap info- GREAT!!!

Thank you for this! These easy to follow instructions are completely on point and the author knows his stuff. I didn't do mine in all one day, I think I finished in two evenings after work but it came out great. Thanks again man, this really helped me and saved me lots of time and money.
 
#7 ·
These instructions were flawless, I thank you sincerely for taking the time to put this together. You done an awesome job.
i had no Idea what i was doing and this helped tremendously. Followed them step by step and was up and running within 3 hours. Did not use the cable hose pliers used channel locks and replaced with old style clamps. Also open ended metric wrenches worked fine as well,

again Thank You.

Anyone out there reading this and wondering THESE ARE THOROUGH CORRECT and EASY to follow
 
#8 ·
Thank you JRD this helps me alot, really appreciate this. There was another thread like this that relied mainly on pictures to guide you but all the photos are gone from the thread, probably deleted from the host. Your detailed descriptions help out alot. Sorry for posting in dead thread mods but this is still helpful information for some, and took quite a bit of searching to find it.
 
#9 ·
Supplemental instructions for my 2002 job

Thank you, @jrd0304, for your detailed notes. These helped me with an '02 Impala 3.4 radiator job that I finished this afternoon. Here are some supplemental notes corresponding to your steps of things I came across:

2) In order to put in the new radiator, I removed the plate the battery sits on (4 bolts). I didn't end up doing this until later, but may as well had done it at this point.

8) I either don't have one or it wasn't in the way, so I skipped this step. I did notice I do have some broken plastic underneath.

10) I disconnected the lower hose from the radiator hose clamp but left the other end connected as I decided not to replace it at this time. I realized after removing it that the drain plug is on the driver's side which might have made less of a mess than draining from the lower hose connection.

15) My new radiator came with new trans line connectors. I realized after finishing that it also included a little plastic tool for the quick release connection. If I did it over again, I would have possibly used this to quickly remove the lines from the old radiator without ever removing the 19 mm connectors. As it was, I ended up removing the lower one as I was lifting out the radiator.

16) Mine seemed a bit different with no bolts on the sides (perhaps they were missing?) There was a clip on the top that connected the fan assembly to the radiator. There was also a bracket bolted to the frame on each side with rubber mounts that the top corner tips of the fan assembly rest in.

18) My coolant level sensor was on the passenger side of the radiator, toward the top. Before pulling out the radiator, the electrical connector for it should be disconnected.

Between 18 and 19) I removed the sensor from the old radiator, cleaned it, snapped off the plug that was on the new radiator, and mounted it on the new radiator before installing it. Here is a good video about it: https://youtu.be/VLz5TfUrCbo?t=4m16s

19) See my comments in step 15 about the quick release tool. I think it would have also been easier to have installed and tightened the new fittings (22) on the new radiator before lowering it into the bay. Then the radiator lines could have simply been clicked in after the radiator was in place.

32) Just to clarify, I assume the 1.5 gallons is not just for the overflow tank, but includes the amount poured into the radiator. I ended up putting less than a quart of the DexCool/water mix in the overflow tank (slightly above the cold line). I also removed the overflow tank by first removing the cross member above it. I emptied it and tried to rinse it out. I found it useful to remove it to better see the fill lines when pouring the new fluid into it.

39) The temp in the garage was around 60F, and the fans never came on for the 20-30 minutes I was adding coolant and letting the engine heat up. After I drove it several miles on the freeway and then idled it in a parking lot and turned on the A/C, I did observe the fans come on.
 
#10 ·
Thank you, @jrd0304, for your detailed notes. These helped me with a '02 Impala 3.4 radiator job that I finished this afternoon. Here are some supplemental notes corresponding to your steps of things I came across:

2) In order to put in the new radiator, I removed the plate the battery sits on (4 bolts). I didn't end up doing this until later, but may as well had done it at this point.

8) I either don't have one or it wasn't in the way, so I skipped this step. I did notice I do have some broken plastic underneath.

10) I disconnected the lower hose from the radiator hose clamp but left the other end connected as I decided not to replace it at this time. I realized after removing it that the drain plug is on the driver's side which might have made less of a mess than draining from the lower hose connection.

15) My new radiator came with new trans line connectors. I realized after finishing that it also included a little plastic tool for the quick release connection. If I did it over again, I would have possibly used this to quickly remove the lines from the old radiator without ever removing the 19 mm connectors. As it was, I ended up removing the lower one as I was lifting out the radiator.

16) Mine seemed a bit different with no bolts on the sides (perhaps they were missing?) There was a clip on the top that connected the fan assembly to the radiator. There was also a bracket bolted to the frame on each side with rubber mounts that the top corner tips of the fan assembly rest in.

18) My coolant level sensor was on the passenger side of the radiator, toward the top. Before pulling out the radiator, the electrical connector for it should be disconnected.

Between 18 and 19) I removed the sensor from the old radiator, cleaned it, snapped off the plug that was on the new radiator, and mounted it on the new radiator before installing it. Here is a good video about it: https://youtu.be/VLz5TfUrCbo?t=4m16s

19) See my comments in step 15 about the quick release tool. I think it would have also been easier to have installed and tightened the new fittings (22) on the new radiator before lowering it into the bay. Then the radiator lines could have simply been clicked in after the radiator was in place.

32) Just to clarify, I assume the 1.5 gallons is not just for the overflow tank, but includes the amount poured into the radiator. I ended up putting less than a quart of the DexCool/water mix in the overflow tank (slightly above the cold line). I also removed the overflow tank by first removing the cross member above it. I emptied it and tried to rinse it out. I found it useful to remove it to better see the fill lines when pouring the new fluid into it.

39) The temp in the garage was around 60F, and the fans never came on for the 20-30 minutes I was adding coolant and letting the engine heat up. After I drove it several miles on the freeway and then idled it in a parking lot and turned on the A/C, I did observe the fans come on.