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Yes indeed! I was looking at an older thread you linked in another thread... The guy used a Subaru? back up cam that took the place of the Impala license plate light. Sound familiar? I really like that option if it is still viable. Can kill 2 birds with one stone... Get LED license plate lights and get a well integrated back up cam at the same time.
Yeah, that is definitely a nice option - looks factory!

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Time for another update... Received my Rosen GM1210 from @jtrosky on Friday and got a chance to drop it in today. First things first... Jim, you are a class act bro! This whole transaction was about as perfect as it could get. The radio was as described and it works and functions as described. Jim's extra work on it was incredible and it makes the Rosen a much better deal. Jim's knowledge of these units is priceless. Lastly, after the sale help has been awesome. I literally installed the radio in like 20 mins but that was partly because I am going to back into it eventually to install a backup cam and my amps, sub, and better speakers. Since my iPod works with the 1210 and I don't need a newer iPod, I will most likely invest in a sound processor. This will help bring everything together when it is all said and done.

Out with the old...


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A few pics of the Rosen in action...

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The 1210 is infinitely better than stock and arguably as good as the big name brands. Sound quality tuning is not the Rosen's strong point but hopefully a good processor can fix that. The plug and play aspect for everything is really nice. The chime box is OK... Not as good as stock, but not terrible. Radio reception is just as good, maybe better than stock. Sat radio works fine, as does the GPS and iPod functions. It displayed my album art but would not play a video from it. May need a better cable here? DVDs play fine, screen resolution is pretty good for everything. Overall, I am happy with the Rosen. Eventually, I am going to add a back up cam and install the rest of my system. Don't know if I will do any rear seat entertainment but having the option for it is cool.

Installation was about as easy as it gets and the included notes and extras were very helpful. Thanks again Jim for everything!!
 
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Next up are some appearance mods in the Spring and some maintenance. First oil change is nearing and I want to change the trans fluid. Wallet needs to cool off before I can get to the rest of the system. The more I do to this car the more I enjoy it and reinforce my decision to buy it. It is everything my GTP wasn't, plus more...
 

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Glad to hear that you got the GM1210 installed and all was well. I didn't like sending it to you "un-tested" in-car, but as the same time, I was able to test it pretty well "on the bench". Was happy to hear that all was well.

In case you weren't aware, the GM1210 allows you to adjust the "cut off" frequencies of the bass, mid and treble controls, so you have some fine-tuning capabilities. While not as good as the BBE in the GM1010, it is better than nothing.

Regarding video from the iPod, I'm not sure off-hand - I'll have to check into that. What you can do though is put videos on a MicroSD card and play them from there. Just an FYI - the MicroSD card goes into the slot upside-down. :)

Compared to the stock head-unit, these Rosen units are fantastic - especially considering the price. You can't get anything near as functional anywhere near the price of these things - and they also look fantastic installed. It's so nice not needing those "fitment" adapters!

Unit looks great! I think that the more that you use it and get familiar with it, you'll really enjoy it. The little "chime box" is definitely a con of the GM1210, but I'm sure you'll get used to it over time.

How did the GPS work? Did you just put the antenna on top of the unit?

Let me know if you have any questions and/or issues. As you know, I'm not in this for the money, so if there is ANYTHING wrong, don't hesitate to reach out - I'll make it right somehow.

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I did some digging on the stereo and found the crossovers and dialed them in... Made some difference. It sounds better and louder than stock.

The iPod video playback isn't a big deal. I have it hooked to the USB on the stereo so I don't know if that has an effect on it. I will keep the micro SD card in mind though.

I had just put a Kenwood double din in my Grand Prix with all of these same functions. It cost me $550 and it was a factory refurb. The SAT radio, SWF adapter and hook up parts are included in that cost. If the stereo was new it would have been at least $800. Putting that Kenwood into the Impala would have cost $150 more for the harness to retain everything. When you put in perspective, the Rosen stereos are hard to beat. I ended up pulling the Kenwood and returning everything to Crutchfield. The Bluetooth didn't work very well anyway... Lots of static and popping noise in the background.

I put the GPS antenna on top of the stereo for now. I didn't go very far but I have some running around to do tomorrow so I will play with it some more.

All in all I am happy with it. It will sound even better when I get some real speakers and power behind them. The only things left to test are a quick call to OnStar and a Bluetooth phone call to someone to see how it sounds. Gonna play with the GPS some more.
 

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Hey WickedGoat sorry to jump here in the middle of the conversation with Jtrosky but I just wanted to say that having these Rosen units is great isn't it? It's one thing that really makes ours cars that much more enjoyable. Especially with Jtrosky's knowledge and upgrades.
 

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Hey WickedGoat sorry to jump here in the middle of the conversation with Jtrosky but I just wanted to say that having these Rosen units is great isn't it? It's one thing that really makes ours cars that much more enjoyable. Especially with Jtrosky's knowledge and upgrades.
It's all good man... Reading about you guys getting these stereos and asking questions in the threads is was "pushed" me into getting one. I agree that the Rosen unit just made the car that much more enjoyable and I can't wait to do the rest of the system. I hope to have the rest done by summer time, but hopefully sooner.
 

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The only things left to test are a quick call to OnStar and a Bluetooth phone call to someone to see how it sounds.
I don't have any first-hand experience with the GM1210, but everything I've read suggests that installing the included bluetooth MIC is HIGHLY recommended. I know that with the GM1010, the phone call quality isn't so great - and I suspect that it's because of the tiny mic included on the face of the unit (GM1210 also has a built-in MIC, I believe - it's probably one of these little holes on the front - one is a reset hole and the other is the MIC).

Anyway, my point is that you'll probably want to install the external MIC at some point. Also, the GM1210 does support voice commands, so the external MIC should help with that as well (GM1010 doesn't support any voice commands). I'm sure that the GM1210 is a LOT better than the GM1010 is the phone call quality aspect. Hell, the GM1010 doesn't even let you view your phone contacts! The phone integration on the GM1010 is pretty poor.

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The only things left to test are a quick call to OnStar and a Bluetooth phone call to someone to see how it sounds.
I don't have any first-hand experience with the GM1210, but everything I've read suggests that installing the included bluetooth MIC is HIGHLY recommended. I know that with the GM1010, the phone call quality isn't so great - and I suspect that it's because of the tiny mic included on the face of the unit (GM1210 also has a built-in MIC, I believe - it's probably one of these little holes on the front - one is a reset hole and the other is the MIC).

Anyway, my point is that you'll probably want to install the external MIC at some point. Also, the GM1210 does support voice commands, so the external MIC should help with that as well (GM1010 doesn't support any voice commands). I'm sure that the GM1210 is a LOT better than the GM1010 is the phone call quality aspect. Hell, the GM1010 doesn't even let you view your phone contacts! The phone integration on the GM1010 is pretty poor.

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Hey fellas, Can I ask a question here? I thought that when the Rosen units were installed if they access the steering wheel controls don't they also access the GM installed mic for the OnStar and Bluetooth as well? My wife says that when I call her from the car that the call quality is great and she hears me just fine.
 

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Hey fellas, Can I ask a question here? I thought that when the Rosen units were installed if they access the steering wheel controls don't they also access the GM installed mic for the OnStar and Bluetooth as well? My wife says that when I call her from the car that the call quality is great and she hears me just fine.
Unfortunately, no - they definitely do not use the built-in GM mic. On the GM1010, there are 2 little holes labeled "Mic" - that is what the GM1010 uses for phone calls. Maybe it was actually just my crappy cell phone at that time (meaning that the issues were more reception-related than mic-related). Since I don't even use bluetooth streaming, I actually disabled the Rosen bluetooth and use the stock bluetooth since it allows voice dialing, etc. But even with that, I VERY rarely use my phone while in the car. Mainly just if someone happens to call me - and even then, it's usually a VERY brief call.

So maybe the GM1010 MIC quality is acceptable - maybe it was just the crappy phone that I had at the time.

And like I said, the GM1210 does have an internal MIC, but most places (such as ADC Mobile) *highly* recommend using the included external MIC (for sound quality reasons).

This would be easy enough to confirm - the next time you use the phone while in the car, hold your hand over the GM mic and see if the person on the other side can still hear you. But it's my understanding that they do NOT use the GM mic...

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Hey fellas, Can I ask a question here? I thought that when the Rosen units were installed if they access the steering wheel controls don't they also access the GM installed mic for the OnStar and Bluetooth as well? My wife says that when I call her from the car that the call quality is great and she hears me just fine.
Unfortunately, no - they definitely do not use the built-in GM mic. On the GM1010, there are 2 little holes labeled "Mic" - that is what the GM1010 uses for phone calls. Maybe it was actually just my crappy cell phone at that time (meaning that the issues were more reception-related than mic-related). Since I don't even use bluetooth streaming, I actually disabled the Rosen bluetooth and use the stock bluetooth since it allows voice dialing, etc. But even with that, I VERY rarely use my phone while in the car. Mainly just if someone happens to call me - and even then, it's usually a VERY brief call.

So maybe the GM1010 MIC quality is acceptable - maybe it was just the crappy phone that I had at the time.

And like I said, the GM1210 does have an internal MIC, but most places (such as ADC Mobile) *highly* recommend using the included external MIC (for sound quality reasons).

This would be easy enough to confirm - the next time you use the phone while in the car, hold your hand over the GM mic and see if the person on the other side can still hear you. But it's my understanding that they do NOT use the GM mic...

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In my car I didn't link up with Rosen unit because I don't Bluetooth stream anything anyway. I still link up via the GM system that comes up on my cell phone as "Your Vehicle" like I always have. The Rosen requests to link via Bluetooth but I always decline. Maybe that's why my call quality hasn't declined.
 

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In my car I didn't link up with Rosen unit because I don't Bluetooth stream anything anyway. I still link up via the GM system that comes up on my cell phone as "Your Vehicle" like I always have. The Rosen requests to link via Bluetooth but I always decline. Maybe that's why my call quality hasn't declined.
Ahh - ok - yeah, that explains it. You're still using the stock bluetooth system, which DOES use the GM mic. You only use the Rosen mic if you are using the Rosen bluetooth.

Most people use the Rosen bluetooth because they want the ability to stream via bluetooth.

You should be able to completely disable the Rosen bluetooth in order to stop that Rosen link request. It's in the hidden installer menu (7253 on the keypad in settings).

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I didn't hook up the Rosen mic to the stereo because I read in several places that you could use the GM mic instead. However, you do have to choose between the Rosen Parrot system or the the stock GM system. I also read that the steering wheel controls do not work with the Rosen BT. So far I have only set the system to work with the Rosen BT and have paired my phone to it. I called my house line from it and the answering machine came through fine, just don't know how my voice sounds on the other side. My contacts transferred to the Rosen but I don't like how it did it... It put them in alphabetical order by last name, not first name like my Droid Turbo does. It also lists mobile as office for the number label. Don't know if this is Rosen or the Motorola Droid Turbo being stupid. Not a big deal but kind of a minor wtf thing.

I just need more time to play around with the stereo and get to know it. Nowadays these things come with so many features you really need to just sit in the car undisturbed and just play with it... Wait, that didn't sound right...
 

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I didn't hook up the Rosen mic to the stereo because I read in several places that you could use the GM mic instead. However, you do have to choose between the Rosen Parrot system or the the stock GM system. I also read that the steering wheel controls do not work with the Rosen BT. So far I have only set the system to work with the Rosen BT and have paired my phone to it. I called my house line from it and the answering machine came through fine, just don't know how my voice sounds on the other side. My contacts transferred to the Rosen but I don't like how it did it... It put them in alphabetical order by last name, not first name like my Droid Turbo does. It also lists mobile as office for the number label. Don't know if this is Rosen or the Motorola Droid Turbo being stupid. Not a big deal but kind of a minor wtf thing.

I just need more time to play around with the stereo and get to know it. Nowadays these things come with so many features you really need to just sit in the car undisturbed and just play with it... Wait, that didn't sound right...
The only way to use the built-in GM mic is if you are using the stock bluetooth system. If you are using the Rosen bluetooth, you have to use the Rosen mic (either the internal or external on the GM1210 - or internal only on GM1010).

The GM1210 may be better in this respect, but I do remember the quality not being great for the person on the other end with the built-in internal mic on the GM1010.

Interested to hear what you find out after testing more. I know that ADC Mobile *highly* recommends the external MIC on the GM1210 though. Check out ADC Mobiles site - they are considered the "go to" vendor for the Rosen GM1210 and the Advent OGM-1.

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Got a chance to play with the stereo some more. In the BT settings, you can choose between using the built in mic or the external mic for use with the Rosen BT. So it is either stock GM bluetooth, which will work with the steering wheel controls, or the Rosen Parrot BT which I assume does not work with the factory steering wheel controls as stated. I haven't tried it yet to confirm. And as already stated, the Rosen BT will upload your contacts from the phone to the stereo. The stereo is not perfect, but it works for me, well enough that I have zero desire to look at a Pioneer, Kenwood or anything else. If this one were to die on me, I would most likely buy another 1210, probably brand new. I don't see anyone else making a stereo like this with 100% compatibility in mind for this era of GM vehicles.
 

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Got a chance to play with the stereo some more. In the BT settings, you can choose between using the built in mic or the external mic for use with the Rosen BT. So it is either stock GM bluetooth, which will work with the steering wheel controls, or the Rosen Parrot BT which I assume does not work with the factory steering wheel controls as stated. I haven't tried it yet to confirm. And as already stated, the Rosen BT will upload your contacts from the phone to the stereo. The stereo is not perfect, but it works for me, well enough that I have zero desire to look at a Pioneer, Kenwood or anything else. If this one were to die on me, I would most likely buy another 1210, probably brand new. I don't see anyone else making a stereo like this with 100% compatibility in mind for this era of GM vehicles.
I agree that while these Rosens are definitely not perfect, between the fact that they integrate so well with stock functions, look factory-installed (which was kind of a big thing for me) and are plug-and-play, they really are hard to beat for the prices that you can get them for. And from my experience with the GM1010, they are pretty damn reliable as well.

You also have to remember that these things were designed years ago whereas the big name brands release new models every year - so considering how long ago these things were designed, they are pretty impressive - especially for the price (price matters!). Plus you got the whole dual-zone thing too, which is a nice bonus. You'll get used to the little quirks and figure out work-arounds to them.

Personally, I also like the "understated" interface. I'm not a big fan of the flashing, multi-colored lights thing that most aftermarket brands do...

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I agree... I didn't care for the Kenwood I bought at Crutchfield. Had I paid full retail back when it first came out I would have been pretty mad at myself. I like the understated look as well. When I do something with the wood grain it will look even better in there. I like the Rosen and I have no problem recommending it to anyone.
 

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Glad your enjoying your "new" 1210. Had mine for a while now and love it. I would recommend using the external mic if using the Rosen BT. Much better quality. Ive had no complaints of voice quality. I put the mic at the rear view mirror. As for the obnoxious chime, one option is to wrap it in foam. I wrapped mine with quite a bit of foam and put it in the space to the right of the radio down low. Door chime volume is bearable now. Signal volume is low.
 

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My wife took my car and paired her phone up with the stereo and both people she talked to said her voice was pretty clear. I may install the external mic and try it to see if there is a difference.

Back up cam is coming soon, probably sometime next month.

Burned my first DVD today and played it in the car... Rocking and rolling now. Gonna sound worlds better when I upgrade the speakers and get my sub going. The radio is great, aside from a couple of quirky issues, I am happy with it. My wife wants one in her 2004 Yukon. Anyone know if one of the older Rosen units will work in that truck?
 
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