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Found that a lot of my stuff I replaced was not really missing at all, so ended up with extras to keep in other boxes.
No doubt, spread around in my garage are enough pieces to comprise the better part of a set of sockets

I'm sure I'll find most of them some day

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My tools at home and work,a mixture of everything.I use what works well and am not a tool snob.My work tools are SK,Mac,Matco,Snap On,Craftsman,Williams,some Harbor Freight,IR.My impact sockets are mostly Grey Pnuematic and Sunex.I also have cordless tools which is the Milwaukee fuel line,the warranty sold me on this.I have one co worker that is a total tool snob,all Snap On and he believes Snap On makes everything.He is wrong,Snap On does not make everything which some of their tools are rebrands made by someone else.I even beat him lately,my Milwaukee M18 1/2 drive cordless impact took out more bolts than his Snap On 1/2 drive cordless impact.
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All my Snap-On is at least 35 years old now, very few having been swapped out on warranty. I also have many other brands; Mac, Matco, Craftsman, as well as plenty of off brand/no name stuff. But, all the wrenches are Snap-On. Most of the chrome sockets are Snap-on as well. Now that some of the other brands' quality has come up exponentially I have no issue getting a Kobalt or Stanley socket or wrench if I need to. Most all of my weird branded impact sockets have held up well too; I just don't break stuff much!



Now that I've jinxed myself, I suppose a rail of Harbor Fright sockets are in my future.
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Now that I've jinxed myself, I suppose a rail of Harbor Fright sockets are in my future.
lol. About the only issue I have with off brand or cheaper tools is those that end up causing busted knuckles or worse yet rounded off heads. Think hf gives a lifetime warranty on their hand tools, but sometimes the frustration caused by tools that do not hold up are not worth it.

That said, have a few 1/4 dr craftsman sockets that are broken/cracked. Wonder if lowes would exchange them?
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Curious about some of the old sockets I have, I've done a little bit of research, mostly on the web. One site I found that was very helpful is Alloy Artifacts Tool History Page

My paradigm had been that socket sets and ratchets were always paired, but that's not the case. Some early sets came with non-ratcheting breaker bars while others used " hex drivers - allen wrenches - as the companion tool. I don't own a complete kit, but I have several sockets with the " hex drive openings in back. And, for all I know, one of the many allen wrenches in my stash was part of a kit with some of these sockets.

In the first pic, a few of the sockets are flipped to show the drive ends.

Three of the sockets, blown up in the second pic, are odd ducks in the collection. The top right one, with its grooved inner face, appears to be intended for grinding. One thought was that it was for extracting rounded hex heads, but the grooves look too fine to me - they don't appear to be deep enough to get a good bite for turning a stuck bolt. I'd love to know more about this one.

The lower right one has a square opening, as if it were intended for square head bolts, but the opening is off center. The hole is otherwise very square and clean. My thought was that this one had been modified after it left the factory -I doubt the factory would have put the hole that far off center.

The lower left one does appear to be factory made. It has a smooth 3/8" circular opening rather than a hex opening. I have no idea what that would be intended for. I wondered it might be a factory mistake that got included in a kit. If anyone has any ideas about this one, I'd love to hear them

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PS: I didn't notice the yellowing in the pics until someone pointed it out to me. But the sockets aren't yellow - I think it's an artifact from some of the photo editing.
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I have my dad's tools still in the toolbox and he was no tool snob.He passed away 3 years ago and my mom wanted to sell them.I told her no way,wanted something that reminded of him.They do bring back memories.Like mine,his is full of Craftsman,SK,Cornwell,Mac,Matco and Snap On.Some cheap tools as well including the cheap tools modified made into specialty tools.I keep the cheap throw away tools for modifying applications,have 3 boxes of them at work for this reason.One I have is a wrench I made for access to oil line fittings on a Paccar diesel engine.Story is I was in a pinch and had no angle wrench at the time.I still use it to this day.
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Individual sockets gone from Walmart

I mentioned elsewhere - in this thread, I think - that Walmart was selling Stanley sockets packaged individually. Several recently remodeled stores here in the DFW area had such displays in their tool sections.

Alas, that offering seems to have come to an abrupt halt. It appears all the stores I saw them in have now re-arranged those aisles and have removed the sections with the individual socket displays. Needless to say, I'm bummed. Stanleys are surely decent tools, and were available at excellent prices. And they still are, but now only in sets - I can no longer just pick up a 3/4" socket by itself. (However, they do still have 10mm sockets, in 3-packs )

Anyway, I suspect the issue was theft. The small, 1-socket packages are easy enough to pocket and walk out the front door with. I haven't discussed it with any store employees, but if I get the chance, I will.

As you can see in the attached pic, even the sets are susceptible to theft. I think I counted 6 pieces missing from this 24-piece HyperTough (store brand) set! Wow!

That said, other retailers such as Home Depot and Lowes still offer individual sockets at decent prices.

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The amount of theft at Walmart is crazy.... I usually look online to make sure they have something in stock before I go, but I've found that the on-line inventory levels for smaller stuff is usually not correct becuase people steal so much stuff! Nothing worse than checking to make sure something is in stock before you go only to find empty packages instead of acutal items! <sigh>
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The amount of theft at Walmart is crazy.... I usually look online to make sure they have something in stock before I go, but I've found that the on-line inventory levels for smaller stuff is usually not correct becuase people steal so much stuff! Nothing worse than checking to make sure something is in stock before you go only to find empty packages instead of acutal items! <sigh>
Agreed but I'll give you worse. We all get to pay for these critters acquisitions via higher pricing to make up for the theft... Everything in the store goes up in price to make up for the stuff that sprouts legs and walks out the door.
The managers called it "Shrink" in the orientations when I worked as a temporary evening and weekend retail stock clerk at Bradlees and Ames over Christmas holidays when I was a teenager in High School in the 70's & very early 80's. I caught a couple people absconding with stuff and called security on em. If I see a thief now I'm not going to look the other way.
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Seems that those single sockets "fits in the pocket". Next wave is blister packs with 6" cards.
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Seems that those single sockets "fits in the pocket". Next wave is blister packs with 6" cards.
Blister packs came to my mind, too.

The killer is, on a cost basis, for many products, the printed paper card/label and plastic pack can cost as much as the item(s) inside. I doubt that's the case for a socket, but such packaging can still be a significant adder.

Plus, for the retailer, a blister-packaged socket will take much more shelf space, on the order of 3 or 4x. So that's yet another negative.

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Screwdriver racks

I am not sure how helpful this is, but here goes, anyway. I decided to make a screwdriver rack rather than buying one, like are available for pegboards, for example. In this case, I'm talking about tool storage rather than tools, but I thought it still fit the thread topic.

I did this one in three tiers with the small ones on top, the most used ones in the middle, and the extra long ones on the bottom. The top two layers are straightforward with all the screwdrivers placed in ordinary holes. The bottom tier screwdrivers are long enough that pulling one out is akin to removing a sword from its scabbard, rather awkward and surely not something to be done in a confined space.

So I slotted the holes on the bottom rung, and also countersunk them to prevent the screwdrivers from sliding sideways and falling out.

I've had this up a couple years now, and I find it works fairly well. One improvement I can see would be to have somehow mounted this to the tool chest stack. That way, if the tool chest is rolled out, as might be done while working on a car, the screwdrivers would come with.

That said, for me, the big improvement was moving the screwdrivers nearer the garage door. Previously, they had been mounted on a pegboard sheet on the other end of the garage, requiring a walk across the room to fetch one. Having them next to the tool chests and near the door makes gathering tools much easier when I'm working on the car in the driveway.

Another change I'd make, if I had to do it over again, is that I'd shorten the struts on the top and maybe middle layers, so that they could be spaced closer together. There is some wasted (vertical) space there, for sure. An option to that, one which I could maybe still add, is to cut a u-shaped section which would fit around the top strut and be mounted between the top two levels. A few dowels would secure it in place. It would hold another 15 or so small/medium sized screwdrivers, altho they would be redundant, I think.

BTW, I think most of the material was clear poplar, but the back piece on the wall may be a piece of clear fir or pine.

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Holiday gifts

With Christmas coming soon, this might be something to add to your wish list. I saw them at Sears recently when I went to pick up some sockets I had scored with one of their points rewards. I don't grill much, but I do find these appealing. In fact, I have a bottle opener with the same Craftsman screwdriver style handle.

And, with Sears' recent bankruptcy announcement, some tools like this might could go away, despite Craftsman being a Stanley product now. So act now, while the getting is good

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More gifts for Dad

After spotting these on the web, I requested and received a set for my birthday years ago. The fork has since met a horrific demise in the disposal, but I still use the spoon and knife

Google "wrenchware" for more info. The prices I saw today were in the 20 dollar range.

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