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Couple of those I am not familiar with, but have assorted tools of most of those brands plus several not seen above. Usually try to buy craftsman when I need something just for the value, although I have to admit sears anymore SUCKS with many "hometown" privately owned store owners not honoring sears lifetime warranty policy or in cases when they do cheating you out of a decent product and giving you a refurbished piece of junk, which in my case makes for a most often inopportune 30 mile one way trips to the nearest decent sized sears store. Kinda wondering how lowes will handle craftsman lines since they are picking up more and more of those products.

I have bought "cheap" pittsburgh 3/4 drive impact sockets from rural king for heavy equipment work where the closest craftsman set was just too ridiculously priced. Never had an issue with those either(knock on wood).
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...or in cases when they do [honor the warranty] cheating you out of a decent product and giving you a refurbished piece of junk...
I have experienced that as well. Some of the Craftsman ratchets were sloppy loose when new - the direction switch doesn't have enough resistance and sticks out too far resulting in it being inadvertently flipped if you should brush against it in a tight space, and the socket retention (little spring loaded ball bearing thingy) is crappy to non-existent. And the refurbs are no better, usually worse.

I think I have 3 or 4 other ⅜" drive ratchets in my rotation, and the Craftsman is always the last one I grab, because of that.

I've rejected at least one refurb they tried to give me and made them give me a better one. It's abundantly clear we're now dealing with K-Mart - "satisfaction guaranteed or your money back" seems to have been abandoned.

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I have bought "cheap" pittsburgh 3/4 drive impact sockets from rural king for heavy equipment work where the closest craftsman set was just too ridiculously priced. Never had an issue with those either(knock on wood).
In the St Louis area, we had a very discount department store chain called Grandpa Pigeon's. They sold the Buffalo brand of tools. Your hope was that they'd last thru the project

That said, I'm seeing other store brands gaining respect. I completely trust Husky (Home Depot) and Kobalt (Lowes). In fact, my Husky ⅜" ratchet is my go-to now.

And I've recently added some Northern Tool Klutch brand sockets to extend some of my sets. I think these guys are slowly shedding their cheap import image. They seem to cater to not just DIY'ers, but also to garages - they sell lots of equipment that repair shops use.

One other note, many Walmart stores are carrying Stanley sockets packaged individually. For 2 bucks, versus 4-5 at Sears, I'll give them a shot when I need a deep well 10 mm socket. And Stanley makes Craftsman - they even bought the brand from Sears a while back. So I'd like to think the tools are of comparable quality.

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In the St Louis area, we had a very discount department store chain called Grandpa Pigeon's. They sold the Buffalo brand of tools. Your hope was that they'd last thru the project

That said, I'm seeing other store brands gaining respect. I completely trust Husky (Home Depot) and Kobalt (Lowes). In fact, my Husky ⅜" ratchet is my go-to now.

And I've recently added some Northern Tool Klutch brand sockets to extend some of my sets. I think these guys are slowly shedding their cheap import image. They seem to cater to not just DIY'ers, but also to garages - they sell lots of equipment that repair shops use.

One other note, many Walmart stores are carrying Stanley sockets packaged individually. For 2 bucks, versus 4-5 at Sears, I'll give them a shot when I need a deep well 10 mm socket. And Stanley makes Craftsman - they even bought the brand from Sears a while back. So I'd like to think the tools are of comparable quality.

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Have some buffalo 3 jaw pullers that never had an issue with.

Was not aware stanley bought craftsman, might explain why craftsman is being expanded into lowes stores. Last few times I have bought craftsman has been off ebay. Even burned on sears online, their parts direct is a scam, selling products they do not have on hand, taking over a month for them to get the part in and then being unable to cancel an order by phone or online with them. Where customer service used to be key with sears, they have seriously dropped the ball in this day and age. Local store is a joke, but then it is an appliance and tool only store. Being as such you would think they would be good to deal with on tools. Owner there refuses to exchange stuff when he clearly has stock on the floor to exchange with, yeah sears corporate folks are aware too, they don't care.

I have a couple qr craftsman ratchets, both 3/8 and 1/2 drive I would like to exchange, but prefer not to downgrade to their cheapy line non qr refurbs. Nothing like turning a ratchet where you cannot see your hands and the dadgum thing giving and causing you to smash your hands.

Lowes kobalt in my limited experience so far is decent, have not had to exchange anything there yet, but our local lowes store management is pretty decent.

Walmart here carries stanley stuff, but no individual sockets. Last time I have had to have a specific socket, needed a shallow well 1/2 drive 6 point 15 mm. I went to autozone and picked up single socket there, serve their purpose in those cases where you cannot find what you need.
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Walmart here carries stanley stuff, but no individual sockets.
Watch for a remodeling. In this area, they've been remodeling stores, and when they do, they add the expanded Stanley offering to the tool aisle.

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I've always preferred the classic screw drivers like this. Feels better in my hands. Anyone else?


As for socket drivers Both style have served me well. I prefer the round style, but the square works well.




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I've always preferred the classic screw drivers like this. Feels better in my hands. Anyone else?
Had a set of snap on screwdrivers I bought in the late 80's that are my favorites. Unfortunately missing about half of them, all the phillips from the set minus a stubby are gone. Grips on those were a new at that time style.

Have had a couple sets of the same craftsmans as you have pictured over the years. Doubt I could put together a complete set now.
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I personally prefer the "round-handled" ratchets - just more comfortable to use, IMO (compared to the "square'ish" type).
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Had a set of snap on screwdrivers I bought in the late 80's that are my favorites. Unfortunately missing about half of them, all the phillips from the set minus a stubby are gone. Grips on those were a new at that time style.

Have had a couple sets of the same craftsmans as you have pictured over the years. Doubt I could put together a complete set now.
My dad had a set of the Craftsman like in GoBlowSnow's pic. I have a few pieces from it left.

I've considered buying a new set, but I think the ingredients are wrong on most sets - they include one of each size over a range which varies with the price and the size of the package.

If I was kitting them up, I'd include like five #2 Philips, one 1 and one 3, and similarly for the slotted sizes. The #2 's get 95% of the workload from me, so they're the ones that get beat up or go missing. Your comment illustrates that well - you have the Philips stubby left most likely because you rarely use it

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I personally prefer the "round-handled" ratchets - just more comfortable to use, IMO (compared to the "square'ish" type).
It's easier to slip a cheater pipe over the round one, too

(I think that's how my ⅜" Snap-On met its demise years ago )

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^^Yes - very good point!! :-)
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you have the Philips stubby left most likely because you rarely use it
lol, likely right. Tried to lay my hands on what I have left of them and am short 4 or 5 of them. But yeah can see in the pic which are the least used. No telling over the past 30 years where they may have gotten to. The little pocket set has always been handy too. Handles to me have a much better easier to torque grip than any others I have owned.
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It's easier to slip a cheater pipe over the round one, too

(I think that's how my ⅜" Snap-On met its demise years ago )

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Not necessarily, depends on the size pipe you are using, I keep one that fits over my breaker bar and it also fits over all the 1/2 inch drive ratchets I own. Have been guilty maybe a time or two of using my long rectangular handled 1/2 drive craftsman with a piece of pipe. Afraid that is why it recently has quit holding direction. I will say this, the breaker bar with the pipe does give/flex, has had me concerned it was going to snap a number of times and had me re-choking up on the pipe, that 1/2 drive rectangular handled craftsman does not give or flex at all.
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There's a recurring meme here about 10mm sockets frequently going missing. I was checking out the tool aisle at Walmart recently, and I think I found the solution, 3-packs of 10mm sockets, in regular and deep

For the price they charge, it can't hurt to put couple packs in the tool box, just in case

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There's a recurring meme here about 10mm sockets frequently going missing. I was checking out the tool aisle at Walmart recently, and I think I found the solution, 3-packs of 10mm sockets, in regular and deep

For the price they charge, it can't hurt to put couple packs in the tool box, just in case

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Looks like the reason for the 3 pack is due to being inclusive of drive sizes.

Like you mention though, seems to be that some sizes are common to go missing. Found that a lot of my stuff I replaced was not really missing at all, so ended up with extras to keep in other boxes.
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