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Also, there's a guy on the Monte Carlo forum with a custom set up on a 3900. I would look that up/ talk to him

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The 3.8 is a completely different motor

The 3.5/3.9 are similar to the 3.4.


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I wonder how hard it would be if you started with a set of grand am turbo headers and some 3.5/3.9 header flanges. The rear header needs heavy modification I have read to fit in wbodies but still I wonder how solid of a starting point that would be.


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The 3.8 is a completely different motor

The 3.5/3.9 are similar to the 3.4.
I just meant in terms of turbo and intercooler placement and the charge piping. Those should be in the same place

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Like I said the problem is we don't really have a exhaust manifold per say It's pretty much a collector so in order to bolt a turbo in the front we would have to fab some sort of up pipe off the collector or maybe fab a crossover pipe with a 3 or 4 bolt flange which would take away from what little room we have. That's why I suggested a remote setup which also leaves more room for the intercooler.
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Like I said the problem is we don't really have a exhaust manifold per say It's pretty much a collector so in order to bolt a turbo in the front we would have to fab some sort of up pipe off the collector or maybe fab a crossover pipe with a 3 or 4 bolt flange which would take away from what little room we have. That's why I suggested a remote setup which also leaves more room for the intercooler.
Only lfx turbo systems I have seen are on the end of the downpipes under the car and I'd say for a good reason.


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I just meant in terms of turbo and intercooler placement and the charge piping. Those should be in the same place
That's all the easy stuff as far as fab work goes.

I wish these were like the gm v8 cars where you could run flipped truck manifolds for turbo manifolds.

Anyway I think anyone serious about wanting to turbo a lz engine should just run twin remote turbos right at the end of the downpipes and be done with it.


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I agree with you EJBIERS but with 11.5 to 1 compression ratio we probably won't see much gains. After saying that. It would be a considerable gain over a lot of smaller mods but also probably really shorten the life of the motor. Would I like to see a turboed 3.6 Impala? Hell yea I love my turbo cars but I just don't think we have come far enough in motor mods yet. I mean the big stuff heads,cams etc. Like Rev extreme has but mostly with camaro's caddy's the rear wheel drive platforms. The only other thing that I was thinking is a M80 or M120 roots style supercharger which doesn't actually make boost because it doesn't compress air it just increases the velocity the air travels. That would give some gains and not be as hard on the motor. Hey Ejbiers I hope you don't think I was trying to argue with you? If so I'm sorry. I just don't think these cars are ready for all this yet. That's why i think I'm gonna get with Rev extreme and see what we can come up with
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No not at all man I was just throwing my 2cents in


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All-new cylinder block casting
All-new cylinder head castings
Strengthened connecting rods
Forged steel crankshaft
Continuously variable valve timing
Large 38.3 mm intake valves and 30.6 mm sodium-filled exhaust valves
Machined, domed aluminum pistons with top steel ring carrier for greater strength
10.2:1 compression ratio
Patented, integrated charge air cooler system with low-volume air ducts
Two turbochargers produce more than 12 pounds of boost (80 kPa)
Vacuum-actuated wastegates with electronic control valves
All-new direct injection fuel system
Tuned air inlet and outlet resonators, aluminum cam covers and other features that contribute to exceptional quietness and smoothness.

That's what gm did to run a twin turbo lfx in the new caddy.

Can't the parts be interchanged between motors. I haven't seen anything that suggests the motor is different from rwd platforms. Can't parts just be swapped in?


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That's what I'm waiting for. There is also a rumor that Buick is going to take that powerplant and call it the GNX. Why aren't you turboed yet ejbiers you'be got the knowledge for it? I want to do more to mine but I've got 4 kids and can't afford to experiment so I'm watching what other people do for what works and what doesn't lol. I don't mind giving my two cents either on what I've learned from my other fun cars
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It's a 3.5 impala with a 4 speed auto and front wheel drive.
That's why im not turbod lol

I was gonna get rid of the car but I bought some things and had some bills and now the 10k that was going down on a ls2 gto or a c5 z06 vette is spent and I gotta save up again. I do plan to build a reliable force induced v8 with around 550 to the wheels.

Iv also done a ton Of research on these things cause I wanted to turbo it but it just doesn't make sense anymore. My car is a peice of shit lemon and I'll never buy another haha



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Next time you have 10k get in touch with me. I'll put you in a real turbo car. 10k could by one hell of a turbo regal. I'm talking Grand National,T-type and Turbo T. You put your turbo on the LS1 or LS2 and give me the same amount to mod my turbo regal and it will get you everytime lol. On a serious note if your ever looking let me know I have a lot of knowledge with those cars.
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Next time you have 10k get in touch with me. I'll put you in a real turbo car. 10k could by one hell of a turbo regal. I'm talking Grand National,T-type and Turbo T. You put your turbo on the LS1 or LS2 and give me the same amount to mod my turbo regal and it will get you everytime lol. On a serious note if your ever looking let me know I have a lot of knowledge with those cars.
I had a 87 grand national lol not heavily modded though.


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I loved that car lol

Also had a high 9 second mk3 supra before I got the impala as a commuter among a rap sheet worth of other toys lol.


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