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post #16 of (permalink) Old 06-20-2009
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When a couple of 15 second cars are racing the driver has NOTHING to do with it, punch it and go. Like I said too I had my Roady wagon, not the sedan. Even by then my sedan was a low 13 second car.
A 4600lbs base curb weight car(roday wagon) with over 50% on the rear and 2.93s does not need a good driver, punch it and it does not spin. Hell it will push the front tires befoe spinning if I try and do a brake stand

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In your post you said your roady wagon was almost stock right, the 95 buick roadmaster limited post stock times simular to the 95-96 impala at about 15 secounds give or take .3 either way from different reviewers... what doest your verison of almost stock mean if your where already in the 13's? So about what time did you run that day when you ran the 04 SS. What times did he run? Punch it and go does not work... just as you said, you dont see much tire spin.. punching the 04 SS smokes the tires for a good 60 feet... if that is why you beat him then that does not meen your line of car is faster, it just means that the other driver does not know how to race

I dont doubt the potentail of the LT1 or the L67 for that matter but just with the numbers that the automakers and the many car review sites posted for each model as stock, the L67 04 SS Impala is faster then the LT1 96 SS Impala and the LS4 06+ Impala is faster both

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TOOO BAD THE BOTH OF YOU CANT MEET UP @ THE TRACK AND LET YOUR CARS DO THE TALKIN...

ME I HAVENT BEEN TO THE TRACK YET,BUT SOMETIME AFTER THE SUMMER I PLAN 0N DOING SO(WHEN IT COOLS DOWN IN SOUTHERN CALI)

I KNOW BOTH CARS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE FAST,DEPENDIN ON THE MODS YOU DO...WITH MY 08 SS,ITS ALRIGHT WITH WHAT IVE DONE...BUT I THINK A TURBO KIT FOR MINE WOULD BE SICK!!!BUT ID RATHER BUY ANOTHER CAR THAT HAS MORE AFTER MARKET PARTS AND RWD...BUT STILL LOVE MY RIDE...

HOPE I DIDNT RUFFLE ANY FEATHER,WITH PUTTIN IN MY TWO CENTS...:eek::eek:

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That would be kind of pointless seeing as my sedan runs 11.9.

The wagons are several hundred pounds heavier than sedans making them slower or do you FWD guys deny weight impacts ET? Base curb on the wagon is like a full 1000lbs more than a 2004 w-body. Even the b-body sedan is about 600lbs heavier.
My sedan ran 13s at that time.

I currently own 3 b-bodies one of them for 9 years I have slips ranging from low 15s to 11.9 for the sedan. Or maybe I should say had, I think most of the slow ones are thrown out by now.

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That would be kind of pointless seeing as my sedan runs 11.9.


The wagons are several hundred pounds heavier than sedans making them slower or do you FWD guys deny weight impacts ET? Base curb on the wagon is like a full 1000lbs more than a 2004 w-body. Even the b-body sedan is about 600lbs heavier.
My sedan ran 13s at that time.


I currently own 3 b-bodies one of them for 9 years I have slips ranging from low 15s to 11.9 for the sedan. Or maybe I should say had, I think most of the slow ones are thrown out by now.
Like seeing a wagon @ the strip,no one would expect a wagon to smoke a stang,or blow by honda's...the point is have a sleeper that will leave you scratching your head(did I just get smoked by a wagon)???

Weight,who cares about weight when u rock a wagon,lmao!!!right on if your wagon ran 13's maybe my two front wheels will help run in the 13's...


Right on,as of right now I have all front wheel drive 08 ss(mine),06 g6 gt(wife's),and an 06 gp v6(wknd car when I don't want to drive the ss)...but gonna be sellin the gp to the homie in the next week or sooo...post sum of your time slips for the proof of the 13's!!!

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That would be kind of pointless seeing as my sedan runs 11.9.

The wagons are several hundred pounds heavier than sedans making them slower or do you FWD guys deny weight impacts ET? Base curb on the wagon is like a full 1000lbs more than a 2004 w-body. Even the b-body sedan is about 600lbs heavier.
My sedan ran 13s at that time.

I currently own 3 b-bodies one of them for 9 years I have slips ranging from low 15s to 11.9 for the sedan. Or maybe I should say had, I think most of the slow ones are thrown out by now.
Ok, I’m not really seeing your point... at first you said your stockish wagon is faster then the 04 SS which wasn’t true... and now you say they are slower because of there weight which IMO is true. Which are you holding is the truth? Are you using your weight as an excuse for the slow stock times? If thats the case then your orginal argument was pointless... it’s not me who are making and posting these numbers, it’s a slew of reviewers from different magazines and car testing sites, but i guess they all just basis for the new FWD SS that they don't like

Its cool that you now do 11.9 in the QTR and its a good start DD that sees the track, I would expect nothing less out of an V8 LT1... but on the same note a lot of DD FWD V6 3800 do at least that or quicker in the QTR, adding a turbo pretty much guarantees it if you are able to get traction After my trans build (still running weak stock one) I will do better then that in the QTR with out a doubt

Anyway, back to the original argument, Stock for stock the V8 LT1 96 SS / Wagon is not faster V6 3800 L67 04 SS

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Ok, I’m not really seeing your point... at first you said your stockish wagon is faster then the 04 SS which wasn’t true... and now you say they are slower because of there weight which IMO is true. Which are you holding is the truth? Are you using your weight as an excuse for the slow stock times? If thats the case then your orginal argument was pointless... it’s not me who are making and posting these numbers, it’s a slew of reviewers from different magazines and car testing sites, but i guess they all just basis for the new FWD SS that they don't like

Its cool that you now do 11.9 in the QTR and its a good start DD that sees the track, I would expect nothing less out of an V8 LT1... but on the same note a lot of DD FWD V6 3800 do at least that or quicker in the QTR, adding a turbo pretty much guarantees it if you are able to get traction After my trans build (still running weak stock one) I will do better then that in the QTR with out a doubt
10.00 Sec Turbo 3800(Impala)
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Anyway, back to the original argument, Stock for stock the V8 LT1 96 SS / Wagon is not faster V6 3800 L67 04 SS
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I gotta ask, whats with the bars on the back of the FWD cars? Its not like they are gonna do a wheelstand.

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weight transfer is a BITCH LOL

any asshole can make a v8 fast
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I gotta ask, whats with the bars on the back of the FWD cars? Its not like they are gonna do a wheelstand.
What detroit said and well... its a NHRA rule if the track follows those rules, bars for cars that go faster then a certain time... it applies regardless if your FWD, RWD or AWD.

Maybe it will go away since there have been some recent changes to NHRA rules becuase of newer cars comming off the shelf running times that require roll cages

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where is a good place to get a cheap one from like under $2000
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where is a good place to get a cheap one from like under $2000
Save some cash cuz getting the smallest turbo set up is about a 4k investment to get it done right. If your are only looking to spend 2k then consider a top swap, you can get the parts for about $800 and do the work your self giving you another grand to do the nessary supporting mod or upgrades on the swap parts

Doing a top swap should get you to low 14's becuase of the higher compression of the L36. from there you still have plenty of mods you add with the money left to get you into the mid 13's

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Has anyone put a turbo on a 3.5 LS?
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Has anyone put a turbo on a 3.5 LS?
not that i know of, the 06+ turbo is for the 5.3. Its not imposible to do on the 3.5 its just that the aftermarket for the 3.5 is not there so amost every thing you do will be custom

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What detroit said and well... its a NHRA rule if the track follows those rules, bars for cars that go faster then a certain time... it applies regardless if your FWD, RWD or AWD.

Maybe it will go away since there have been some recent changes to NHRA rules becuase of newer cars comming off the shelf running times that require roll cages
I know this is an old post but with such drastic lack of comprehension I have to correct it.

NHRA requires ROLLBARS at some of these speeds, not "wheelie" bars which was clearly what was being asked about.

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