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What's the difference between a rental and a 4x4?

A rental will go where a 4x4 wont...



That being said, the last two gimps I bought were "loaner" cars. Of course I would expect "some" beating on it...but it a risk that so far has saved me over 5k on each car. (for 2k miles on each...) I guess I trusted these a bit more than a true rental as they were loaner cars at the dealer. Hopefully the people that were lucky enough to actually get a loaner, dit-ant beat the piss out of it

as far as pricing, its a 2LT sticker of 31,900 got it for around 23k after a dozen discounts, Gm card, etc...
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sticker for my car was 39245. i remembered that price because i built one so many times online and on other sites. if you look at consumer reports and truecar, you can use their buying service and get one for about 36 and change and i was lucky enough to have 3 other dealers near me within 1 hour and told my salesguy that as a negotiation. also if you spend enough time on the chevy site, there's a 1000 popup and i was lucky enough to get that. that has no effect on the dealer so make sure you negotiate your price THEN show them the 1000 cash off. dont let them know you have it just to be safe

they very easily and quickly came down to their invoice price, which he showed me to 'prove' there wasnt much profit in the car. of course there's holdback too. everyone should hopefully know about that. so anyone that pays more than invoice is crazy in my opinion. i was shocked how ez this was. then i said i wanted a bit more off and they did the 'go into the back office thing' and i got what i wanted. then i gave them my 1000 off. this brought me to off the low end of the true car and consumer reports charts - actually i was off the chart- , which is where i wanted to be to live with myself.

i still have no idea if i got the best deal possible but i believed that knocking 3K off list wasnt too bad of a deal. maybe if you dig in deeper you can get more? part of me does think since this was so easy that i did leave money on the table. plus they had to go to another state to get the car and i'm sure that costs a bit of money. so they still made money even doing that.

dont ever let the manager guilt you into anything. we need to make money etc etc. i wish i was there for the outcome of the people next to me who said they would walk over 200 bucks. cant believe a dealer would even dicker on that little an amount. hope the customer won

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I don't think I'd ever buy a brand new car - you just loose too much money the second that you drive it off of the lot. Just do your homework, inspect the car closely, run a carfax report and give it a thorough test drive and typically, you'll be just fine... There are ALWAYS exceptions though - and there are some brand new cars that can be lemons as well...
Without derailing this thread too much, the problem is that I did exactly that, and more, and my car never exhibited any of the issues I am experiencing while testing/inspecting it. And I have been VERY diligent about trying to get things remedied.

At least buying new, I can be sure of two things: firstly, that it hasn't been used, AT ALL. If it was and/or it turns out to be a lemon, guess what...I have the law on my side. Taking the car in for service as much as I have, I could have forced them to give me another new vehicle (lemon law). You cannot do that with a used car, which is why I'm currently SOL. You can bet I would have done that by now.
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What I don't understand is why the problems you are having weren't rectified the first time you took it to the first dealer... Do new problems keep coming up, are the problems not being fixed properly or are the dealers telling you that they don't "see" the problem?
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What I don't understand is why the problems you are having weren't rectified the first time you took it to the first dealer... Do new problems keep coming up, are the problems not being fixed properly or are the dealers telling you that they don't "see" the problem?
Combo of all.

1. First dealer said it was something completely absurd. And changed a part that didn't need to be changed.
2. Took it to another. Had to take it back to them 3 times before they finally agreed that a wheel bearing was bad. Said they "couldn't believe it, because it almost never happens".
3. Took it to another dealer to deal with the rattling. They took care of the major rattle after "not being able to reproduce it" 4 times. Since then, been taking it back and forth to them complaining of other random issues (power seat up/down stopped working, other rattling, brake issues, etc. etc. etc.) Opened multiple tickets with GM. No resolution.

Like I said, I'm really tired out of taking it back and forth. Easier to just trade it in at this point.
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The problem is that you could have the exact same issues, even with a different car. It sounds like the lack of a competent dealer is the main problem here. For the few issues that I did have after I bought the car, they were resolved properly the first time!

I'm pretty sure that you (and your car) are the exception here and not the norm. I would get in touch with the GM customer service rep on this site and see if she can help you... If you can get the issues fixed and at least keep the car for a few years, you'd probably lose a lot less on the car...
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The problem is that you could have the exact same issues, even with a different car. It sounds like the lack of a competent dealer is the main problem here. For the few issues that I did have after I bought the car, they were resolved properly the first time!

I'm pretty sure that you (and your car) are the exception here and not the norm. I would get in touch with the GM customer service rep on this site and see if she can help you... If you can get the issues fixed and at least keep the car for a few years, you'd probably lose a lot less on the car...
Again, while that's true, at least with a new car, I have the lemon laws on my side and can literally force GM to give me a new car if it has trouble. Can't do that with a used car.

Quite frankly, the customer service rep here on the boards won't do any more than a rep I would have already contacted via email/phone. I have yet to see these "board reps" actually solve anyone's problem.

I agree, I'd rather keep the car. But for all these problems, I'm paying for my sanity now. Literally.
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Actually, some states do have lemon laws for used cars - you might want to look into that. Also, even with a new car (at least in PA), the lemon law is only valid for 1 year or 12k miles, so you could run into the exact same situation after 12k miles!
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for the record, if anyone didnt have their tail light seals replaces, there is a campaign for it. they did it before i even took possession of the car

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for the record, if anyone didnt have their tail light seals replaces, there is a campaign for it. they did it before i even took possession of the car

that for the trunk leak deal?
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quote from the dealer "GM found that the tail lights might not have a tight enough seal and could let moisture in so we replaced the seals to ensure that would not happen.

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Without derailing this thread too much, the problem is that I did exactly that, and more, and my car never exhibited any of the issues I am experiencing while testing/inspecting it. And I have been VERY diligent about trying to get things remedied.

At least buying new, I can be sure of two things: firstly, that it hasn't been used, AT ALL. If it was and/or it turns out to be a lemon, guess what...I have the law on my side. Taking the car in for service as much as I have, I could have forced them to give me another new vehicle (lemon law). You cannot do that with a used car, which is why I'm currently SOL. You can bet I would have done that by now.




well I bought brand new and instead of getting someone else's problems, I got my own set of problems. Lemon law is vague also, hell I almost got killed in mine, but lawyers won't take the case because of the way the service writer wrote the papers up at the dealer...now I'm stuck with a deathtrap...most likely to trade it in
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Hello all! I just purchased a 2014 Impala 2LT. And guess what? It was a rental.

The Carfax was squeaky clean, no accidents or anything. The car runs and drives great, no squeaks or rattles or tears in the upholstery. As far as I'm concerned, I got it for a steal, since the dealership sold it at $8K off the list price of a new 2014 Impala 2LT. all because it was a "rental". And since the car is still relatively new, the dealership offered an additional extended bumper to bumper warranty for another 6 years/90k miles for the duration of the loan.

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Well yes and no. More on the side of no...hell no.

Rental cars are purely made 1/3 the quality of a new, production retail unit. Over the past 6 months, I've been in a Tahoe, a Cruze, two Malibus, two Impalas, and another one I can't remember. All of them, even those under 5K miles, squeaked and rattled to high hell. Aside from the Impalas, all the other cars were 2014.

If perception is important to GM, driving that through rentals is NOT the way to go. I daresay that it actually DESTROYS perception.

How do I know this? My own car was a formal rental, which is why I have so many problems with it, which has now turned into the overarching reason why I'm looking to get rid of it for a real "production" car. Something that wasn't fleet trash.
^ Just wanted to say that this is all completely false.

Also wanted to say that GM is in fact selling 2014 Impalas to fleets - it's called the 2014 Impala Limited haha.
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