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FRAK! MY turn for "Side-Detection" service!!!

Thank God for the CPO-Warranty!!
TONS of snow in ND this winter. I suppose that's why MY Side-Sensors, etc., are bailing on me?!?!?!


My 2015 Impala LTZ, 2LZ, all options except Radar-Cruise. 35,000 miles now.

'Bout a month ago, the Passenger mirror icon started staying on. Then, would fade in & out. The rear-bumper sensors still worked tho'. Damn glad too, because all these damn snowbanks are hard to see through!! Soon however, lost those too...GRRR!



Lotsa messages on the DIC now: Service Side-Detection System, Service Front-Camera, & a couple others........ Stopped at Dealer today, & luckily they're covered under the CPO! Appointment this coming Monday to look at/fix the system. Asked him about the REVISED module & if they stocked it. Yes, he said, with a knowing chuckle....they're "Good sellers".


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I keep reading posts on here from owners of 2014-2015 Impala's that have the side detection systems problems. Has this happened to anyone with a 2016 Impala or did they redesign the system by then so not water gets into it? I ask as my B to B warranty expires in a few months and if this problem happens to the 2016 model I will probably get a extended warranty for the car as it sounds like a common problem.

I have 33K on my car now and the only problem I have had under warranty is a loose connection at the sunroof sunshade switch. I love my car and plan to keep it for at least another 3 years.

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I didn't know they had a revised module. I hope that's what I got when mine was recently replaced.

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I keep reading posts on here from owners of 2014-2015 Impala's that have the side detection systems problems. Has this happened to anyone with a 2016 Impala or did they redesign the system by then so not water gets into it? I ask as my B to B warranty expires in a few months and if this problem happens to the 2016 model I will probably get a extended warranty for the car as it sounds like a common problem.

I have 33K on my car now and the only problem I have had under warranty is a loose connection at the sunroof sunshade switch. I love my car and plan to keep it for at least another 3 years.

Thanks in advance.

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my 2017 premier had the same problem at 10k miles. 10,000 MILES.
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Also it looks like there is 3 types of sensors. Part numbers for right side only:

23276022

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Also it looks like there is 3 types of sensors. Part numbers for right side only:

23276022

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Aren't they universal fit for either left or right? The dealer just programs them for the car once they're in their respective spots?
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I have had my right side blind spot "stay on" for about 5 minutes (light on the right mirror stays lit) when driving but it then goes out by itself and seems to work fine after that. I never get a error message and it can work normal for a few months before it happens again. Do you think I have a sensor going bad or just some random fluke?

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I'm sorry, but crap like this is so unnecessary... People just need to PAY ATTENTION instead of relying on the car to tell you if someone is next to you! The problem is that people starting relying on this stuff instead of just looking themselves! Same with automatic brakes. Maybe it's me, but I don't want my damn car braking for me...

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I'm sorry, but crap like this is so unnecessary... People just need to PAY ATTENTION instead of relying on the car to tell you if someone is next to you! The problem is that people starting relying on this stuff instead of just looking themselves! Same with automatic brakes. Maybe it's me, but I don't want my damn car braking for me...

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I don't care for the auto-braking either or the start-stop technology (my wife's Malibu has this). However, since I have the blind spot detection in my car I expect it to work, whether I depend on it or not.
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Don't get me wrong, I completely, 100% agree with you that it should work! I was just ranting about how expensive it is to fix something that really isn't even needed to begin with. It's like that start making cars so reliable and then they starting adding all of these gizmos that aren't so reliable and cost a fortune to fix. :-) It's like they have to get you one way or another...

But yes - if it's there, it absolutely should work!
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I'm sorry, but crap like this is so unnecessary... People just need to PAY ATTENTION instead of relying on the car to tell you if someone is next to you! The problem is that people starting relying on this stuff instead of just looking themselves! Same with automatic brakes. Maybe it's me, but I don't want my damn car braking for me...

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Drivers are not as good as they used to be, cars are faster and handle better in general than they used to be and safety equipment sells cars these days, Plus we also did not have people playing with cell phones and touch screens while they drive in the old days either.

That being said, people used to say the same things you did in the 80's when Anti-Lock Brakes came out. Same with Airbags in the 90's and Seat Belts in the late 50's & 60's. I would not want a car without any of those things today.

The system has prevented a couple of near accidents for me, but it does need to be as reliable as any other established safety system.

GM defiantly could have done a better job of placing the modules out of harms way though, and charging people a crazy amounts of money to correct what is essentially a design flaw is just bad business.
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Drivers are not as good as they used to be, cars are faster and handle better in general than they used to be and safety equipment sells cars these days, Plus we also did not have people playing with cell phones and touch screens while they drive in the old days either.

That being said, people used to say the same things you did in the 80's when Anti-Lock Brakes came out. Same with Airbags in the 90's and Seat Belts in the late 50's & 60's. I would not want a car without any of those things today.

The system has prevented a couple of near accidents for me, but it does need to be as reliable as any other established safety system.

GM defiantly could have done a better job of placing the modules out of harms way though, and charging people a crazy amounts of money to correct what is essentially a design flaw is just bad business.
You make some good points. No doubt, nowadays I wouldn't want a car without seat belts or ABS.

That said, many of the expensive features being included today such as
blind spot monitor, forward collision warning and lane departure warning are necessary sense/response features for fully automated driving. That is, the cars with these features today are the proving ground for those technologies needed for self-driving cars of tomorrow. IOW, those features aren't really necessary unless the car is self-driving. A plain old human being can still handle the functions, as long as he's paying attention

And, at that point, I am surely old fashioned. I don't know that I'll ever be ready to let the car do all the driving for me. I doubt I'll ever be ready for that paradigm shift.

But I do see that the younger generation is more interested in self-driving cars. I do see it as inevitable, tho, even if I don't believe in it

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I'd love to leave ours alone but when GM decides to tie in 4-5 sub systems in with it that all get disabled because of it, it becomes a nuisance and a distraction and a safety issue. This is a design flaw that GM knows about but isn't doing anything to fix. If I bought a 40k+ car that gets brought to its knees by faulty equipment and the dealers come back insinuating how much money they make on the fix, I'd be looking elsewhere.
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Drivers are not as good as they used to be, cars are faster and handle better in general than they used to be and safety equipment sells cars these days, Plus we also did not have people playing with cell phones and touch screens while they drive in the old days either.
And that is kind of my point. In my opinion, drivers are not as good as they used to be because they are starting to rely on these features to do the driving for them instead of just being careful. To me, it's encouraging bad driving habits...

I think of things like automatic-braking to be on a different level than something like ABS. With ABS, you still completely controls when the car slows down, it just makes it work better when you do apply the brakes in certain situations - whereas automatic braking is the car doing something you've never asked it to do at all. At least to me, they are on different levels...

It would be interesting to see if all of these "safety" features like blind-spot detection and automatic braking actually decrease the number of accidents or not. When I read about peoples cars slamming on the brakes for no reason (like mentioned above - at least I think this is where I saw it), that actually *creates* safety issues (like someone rear-ending you becuase of it) instead of reducing them.

I guess I'm just "old fashioned". :-) I'll be that old guy saying "when I was young, ...." and talking about walking up hill to school - both ways - in the snow. :-)
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I tried to sell our cruze. The guy wanted to know if had a backup camera. I replied, still old school, turn my head and used my mirrors! It's an Eco so base with added features for gas mileage.

We have cameras and bumper sensors, which snow waffing up on those sets them off. Never use the cameras, just used to doing what i have been doing for over three decades.

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