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This is true is sickening what a dealership can do to sell you a car at what you think is a good deal, makes me fell good about purchasing a used impala, I save a ton of money in the long run and I get more car despite not having touch screens and such! I think its a poor decision for someone under 30 with a minimum wage job to make payments on a new car, especially your first new car buying experience and you let the dealer learn that. I am not a fan of extra sensors in a car just to fail or malfunction. I am excited for my purchase.

You sir, will be getting more car BECAUSE there's no touchscreen. Automatic headlights and DRL's with no known fix, yes, TV screen where there should be a radio, no.
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You sir, will be getting more car BECAUSE there's no touchscreen. Automatic headlights and DRL's with no known fix, yes, TV screen where there should be a radio, no.



I like how you said that! Also I don't have a issue with DRL. I am going to use H9s for high and low beams.
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I must say, I for one really enjoy the following features:

- Backup camera (added to my Impala, stock in my Challenger). Absolutely needed in the Challenger due to huge blind spots. Nice to have in Impala. Again, you can disable if you don't like it (although, it can only help, so not sure why you wouldn't want it).
- Backup beepers - again, nice to have in the Challenger - hurts nothing.
- Automatic headlights (in my Impala and Challenger). Can't forget to turn on your headlights when it's automatic! Can always disable them if desired.
- Automatic climate control (in my Challenger - always wished it was in my Impala)
- Heated and cooled seats (Challenger only) - the cooled seats are *so* nice when it's hot out!
- 8.4" touchscreen (Challenger), 7" aftermarket touchscreen in my Impala - love it, love it, love it!!

Again, these things are there if you want to use them, but you don't have to. Personally, I love these features and I'm glad they exist.

I'm NOT a fan of features that "warn" me when I get too close to something or apply brakes for me without me asking, but I'll take a touchscreen radio over a "regular" radio any day. I also like dual-zone climate control. Yes, the temperature mixes easily, but my wife can still have warm/hot air blowing on her directly while I can have cool/cold air blowing on me directly, which I find very useful (have dual-zone in my Impala and my Challenger).
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I've got dual zone in my Impala, but I always set the temp the same anyway. Need a way to stick those two controls together, haha.



Backup cameras I can almost understand in something with near-zero visibility, but in most vehicles, even with lesser visibility, I would imagine, and my time spent behind the wheel in 47 states confirms it so far, it's mainly a matter of knowing where your vehicle's corners are, getting out to look if you're not sure, and learning to properly use the mirrors. Maybe even add extra mirrors. And the beepers....that's just asking for trouble once you borrow a car without it. Again, learn the vehicle.



Automatic headlights....is pulling a switch too hard? Driver control is sadly lacking in this culture and this only encourages it. And again, once you wind up in a vehicle without it, or where autolights can be turned off, you're just gonna get in trouble. Learn to DRIVE, not just operate, ya know? And DRL's is part of all that. If my headlight switch is off, then all the lights should be off because that's how switches work!!! And if somebody has trouble seeing my car, then they need to practice situational awareness while driving!!!



Automatic climate control seems more like a gimmick than anything else. Bit of a novelty, but in the long run reasonably useless because the standard works just fine, and when even a Jeep has this stuff, maybe we should rethink the extent to which these novelties are perceived to be needed?



Heated and cooled seats I can see use for in extreme climates, and would expect in a Cadillac or maybe a higher Impala trim, but again, it's in so many vehicles that it's often thought of as a need, when it isn't. Makes me shudder when I read about somebody expecting their Jeep to have this sort of thing, or remote start, or other mom-mobile/Cadillac stuffs.



And of course touchscreen....because we need to cut down on distractions, right? So lets install a stinkin' TV screen right smack dab in the middle of the dash on everybody's vehicle, when we want them to concentrate on the road, but also we want the car to do the driving for them, or something like that. Sure, maybe make it an option on higher end vehicles(maybe the LTZ Impala if that? But still, more novelty than anything else and definitely not a necessity), but to just throw this crap around? I wanna drive a car, not a rolling entertainment center!!!!



Now I'm not saying all this crap should be made illegal. Maybe the lights that come on when switches are off, or anything else that directly impedes driver control, but the First Amendment is still a thing. I would sooner educate the motoring public on the dangers of relying on such things, and require that every single American citizen wishing to become a licensed driver to have at least a hundred hours(maybe more) of experience in a vehicle with a standard radio(if any), no rearview assistance besides rearview mirrors, and they need to walk outside to fire it up in advance if they want it heated or cooled to a specific temperature before driving. That sort of thing. And at least 25% of this experience needs to be in a vehicle with a manual transmission. Doesn't matter if it's a column or floor shifted manual, as long as it's H-pattern with a clutch. No flappy paddles.



Sorry for kinda hijacking your thread, Derkach. All I've seen as a trucker, it's hard to not get rattled when I see and hear so many advocating for features that take away from the experience, the art form, that is pure unadulterated driving. Also, please tell me those H9's you mentioned aren't HID/LED? That crap screws with everybody's eyes even on low beam, even when properly aimed. Something about the light itself, it's not great to have to see while buzzing along the interstate at any hour of the day or night.

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Since I drive my cars 'til they die due to rust, car-deer accidents, catastrophic elec. or suspension problems, give me manual crank windows, manual adjustable seats and manual locks, lol!
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That's what I've got on my Patriot, but the Impala as a low-mid range easy-ride sedan has electric windows, mirrors, and locks; six way power driver seat, and manually adjusted passenger seat. About all I'd expect from such a vehicle, with a little extra adjustment available for the driver seat, plus leather seats all around and lights that I can never manage to turn off while the vehicle is on.

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...give me manual crank windows, manual adjustable seats and manual locks, lol!
I still think of power steering and power brakes as options And electric windows and door locks are for Cadillacs

Seriously, the electric windows aren't necessary, but the electric door locks are super handy. It's so nice being able to push a button - in your pocket - from 100 feet away - and know that your doors are all locked

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^+1. And I'd skip the power steering/brakes too...
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^+1. And I'd skip the power steering/brakes too...
Honestly, with the front disk brakes becoming common around 1970, I haven't seen much need for the booster since then. Even less need with today's 4-wheel disk brake vehicles.

My 74 F-100 had un-powered front disk (and rear drum) brakes. With the strongest muscles in the body controlling the brake pedal, I hardly felt any need for a booster.

OTOH, even Nascar went to power steering back in the 80's

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Any notable MPG you guys get on the highway?
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20 city/30 hwy.
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I get about 30 in my 2003 when it's working properly. Seems to be drinking it pretty heavily with a hole in the exhaust this past week. Power locks are mildly handy with it(I wouldn't want such an option in a Jeep unless it's a Grand Cherokee or maybe Liberty), but I took a shotgun to the remote. Stupid thing kept making the car go nuts every time I put it in my pocket, not that I did so often. If I need to lock or unlock my car, I'm perfectly capable of walking right up to it and doing so on site. Power windows are kinda nice to be able to roll them all down without leaning all over like a drunk, but this is more a gentleman's cruiser, not a small vehicle for a working man, like my nearly all-analog Patriot.

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If any of you have any opinions with a 2012ish TDI VW Jetta's compared to the reliability and cost of ownership of these impala which would you pick? My dad is trying to convince me to get one because of his fuel economy of his 2003 Jetta TDI manual but I think those are completely different cars then a modern one .

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I considered VW Passat TDIs along with Impalas and Toyota Avalons at the time I was looking for a used car upgrade last year (obviously ended up with Impala since I am here). Had to be a big sedan or sport utility as I have a tall family.The engine and other quality factors are basically the same for the Jetta. Jetta is a little smaller than an Impala. If you find one new enough to be a part of the whole dieselgate EPA cheating thing, then you might score a good deal on price. If you find a certified used VW, then they cover bumper to bumper for two years in their certified warranty. So not a bad choice if you like diesel and the size and price of a Jetta work for you.
On average, I still think used Impala's are going to give the most bang for the buck, but if a great deal had come along, I personally would have been fine with a VW sedan.

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Impala is indeed a great bang for the buck, though I admittedly have a very soft spot for my 2010 Patriot as well. Haven't been driving it as much recently, but it can easily take much rougher terrain, hold almost as much(the car having more room honestly was a surprise for me), and still return 27mpg highway(less if you get the Trail Rated FD2 model with the L on the shifter). I'd say roughly equal bang for the buck on a Patriot, though I'm not as fond of the 2014+ due to a conventional automatic all but completely replacing the CVT....conventional is like an afterthought at that point, and CVT is amazing tech as long as it's kept maintained.



Not sure about the Volkswagens so much, aside from the Type 1 and Type 2 being pretty cool, Beetle name was just discontinued, and they just annihilated their core fan base with that Dieselgate crap.

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