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Just a warning as I am about to make few observations aboutthe Gen 8 that I and fellow owner chose to purchase. By no means am I trying toinsult anyone or their vehicles, just a few facts that can be verified by alittle internet time. Continue at your own risk.
Some say the Impala SS of the 2006-2009 are not real SS,that they are not the real thing. Take another year at random, say 1964. Mostof us would think of the 409 425hp Turbo Fire but the Turbo Thrift 230 140hp isstill a 64 SS Impala. Myclassicgarage.com
It is said that the SS impala did not compare with some cars such as the Charger. It was never meant to but if you look at the number saccording to zeroto60times.com:
2006 Impala SS vs 2006 Dodge Charger RT
303 HP 323HP
4sp auto 5spauto
0-60 5.5 0-60 5.5
1/4 14.5 1/414
That pretty close, now we are talking about reaction time considering the Dodge has more horsepower, more gears and rear wheel drive.
According to Motortrend, the 1964 Impala SS 409 times were:
0-60 6.3
1/4 14.9
How is this possible from a true muscle car with the biggest engine available? I let you consider that one.
Some say that the SS was just a modified Impala. It was but more than the previous Impalas. The 94-96 impala SS was a not much more than a nicely appointed 9C3 Caprice, no special engine or transmissions. The 2006-2009had an engine design, the LS4, for it and its brother, The GXP exclusively.
Lets look at the times of the last 3 generations of the SS
1996 Impala SS 2004 Impala SS 2006 Impala SS
0-60 7.2 0-60 6.4 0-60 5.5
1/4 15.2 1/4 14.5 1/4 14.0
GM could have made a better SS. Yes, they could have, usingexisting parts with some modifications. Take a 6T75, transfer case and rear differential from a GMC Acadia or Chevrolet Traverse for an AWD SS. That would correct so many issues with the Impala, the transmission failures, the traction issues, ect. I would have paid an extra $5000 for the option. The brakes could have been used from the same to have more braking area.The seats could have been shared with its brother, The GXP.
My point to all this is that we chose this car for a variety of reasons and it is far from perfect but knew what we getting into. Unless youpurchased it new, the information was out there of all the problems and issues,but we still bought it. This car may not be a classic but remember how many cars were destroyed during the gas shortage that I would say all of us would love to have now. Love it or hate it,you still have to respect it because there was nothing like it then or now.

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Interesting perspective.

Kinda wanted an 8th gen SS impala when they came out with them, ended up later on driving a new 12 lt off the lot. The 3.6 is probably pretty close in performance to the ss version.

My 6 year constantly asks why. What adults can learn from 5 and 6 year olds, to listen with your ears and mind open. Hard to learn when you don't listen ......
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Interesting perspective.

Kinda wanted an 8th gen SS impala when they came out with them, ended up later on driving a new 12 lt off the lot. The 3.6 is probably pretty close in performance to the ss version.
I've driven both of them.
There's no replacement for displacement.
Look at the Torque and Horsepower curves.
The 5.3L LS4 beats the 3.6L in torque.
What does that mean?
The LS4 has torque down in the lower RPMs that you can feel as soon as you get on the gas.
To get some respectable juice out of the 3.6L you have to wind it up.
Once you get the revs up the 3.6L is a pretty respectable little engine but there's a lag between the time you hit the gas pedal and when you begin to get any power from it.

There's always the crowd that figures they "must" have rear wheel drive or it's not a real car.
My SS is a lot of fun. They can't handle a little torque steer.

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Hey, nothings more fun then being able to kick the ass end out a little! Wakes me up in the morning better than a cup of joe! Can't do that in a torquey FWD car! LOL just messing with ya.

I would've loved to get a SS, but couldn't afford it at the time. After I paid this one off me and my dad were talking about cars and he said "Yeah, I wish you would have gotten that SS". In my mind I was thinking to myself "Why didn't ya tell me that when I was first got tihs one!" Since it was my first car with payments I was purchasing it. I opted for the newest, cheapest, most reliable car I could find.
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Hey, nothings more fun then being able to kick the ass end out a little! Wakes me up in the morning better than a cup of joe! Can't do that in a torquey FWD car! LOL just messing with ya.

I would've loved to get a SS, but couldn't afford it at the time. After I paid this one off me and my dad were talking about cars and he said "Yeah, I wish you would have gotten that SS". In my mind I was thinking to myself "Why didn't ya tell me that when I was first got tihs one!" Since it was my first car with payments I was purchasing it. I opted for the newest, cheapest, most reliable car I could find.
my dad is notorious for that statement....kills me everytime. like when i sold off my 87 Suzuki 250 quadracer because it was pushing oil out of the crank vent case....6 months later he tells me "i was going to rebuild that for you." i wanted to strangle him for not telling me that before i traded it off for a snowmobile (college student at the time and no job so i couldn't get it fixed)....
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I think Chevrolet did a good job on the SS Impala. Now with that being said,, I have a friend that purchased a 2015 SS with the 6.2 manual 6 speed transmission! 415 HP.. Now compare that to my 2008 Impala ss,, Worlds apart! But still for an Impala Chevy did good! 5.3= 303 HP, Heavy duty four speed transmission, upgraded suspension, bigger brakes, Bose stereo. Leather with custom stitched head rests and SS badging.
Bought mine brand new and still really enjoy it for what it is.
What made me buy that? Because in 1978 I bought an 1969 Impala SS 396 4 speed! Got way on over my head and paid to much for it. Loved that car every day for the nine months I owned it. Classy big car with a four speed! Back then you could get a plain ol impala with a 396 automatic bench seats vinyl interior AM radio! BUT,, the SS came with AM/FM, 325 HP 396 4 speed Munci M21, High quality vinyl bucket seats, SS badging and Rally Wheels! Just a few more bling items than stock.
So as far as my '08,, same thing, bigger motor, better transmission, better wheels,better suspension and Bling badging.
Every day I drive my 08 I can smell and see and feel that 1969 (same Black on Black) like I had.
When you compare the SS then to the SS now,, Impala did ok!
Now if I could have afforded a true SS in 2015,, I would have that,, but,, I still enjoy my 08 SS and feel Chevy did a good job for what it is!
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I agree with you on the whole SS issue. Chevy was always kinda loose with the SS badges in the past. But it sells cars. SS usually means bigger motor and a little sportier. With that said, do you feel like you're in a "super sport" vehicle? Probably not. But also when I had both of my 95 and 96 impallas, I didn't feel super sporty. Just really cool and comfortable. People just expect that SS badge to mean race car and that's just not the case. Maybe the should change it to CC (cool car). Just my two cents.
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I've owned both, and where the Super Sport has others beat is the engine sound and exhaust noise. Beautiful. Aside from that, our 3.6 is better than my Super Sport was in every way, except for a real-world negligible inferior 0 to 60 time.

Having owned both vehicles, I would take the increased gas mileage and overall better balance of the 3.6. Out of the box, it handles better than the Super Sport did, I'm guessing because the Super Sport was more nose heavy. As well, the six speed transmission is superior in every way to the four speed transmission I had in the Super Sport. At the time, when the other two weaker V-6 were the only other choice, the Super Sport made sense to me. And given the option between the 3.5, 3.9, or 5.3, I'd still go with the 5.3. However, the 3.6 was a game changer.

I used to be a dedicated V-8 guy and swore I would never get anything other than a V-8. Now all three of my cars are V6....... get back with me a few years I'll probably be driving four banger turbos...... LOL

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I've driven both of them.
There's no replacement for displacement.
Look at the Torque and Horsepower curves.
The 5.3L LS4 beats the 3.6L in torque.
What does that mean?
The LS4 has torque down in the lower RPMs that you can feel as soon as you get on the gas.
To get some respectable juice out of the 3.6L you have to wind it up.
Once you get the revs up the 3.6L is a pretty respectable little engine but there's a lag between the time you hit the gas pedal and when you begin to get any power from it.

There's always the crowd that figures they "must" have rear wheel drive or it's not a real car.
My SS is a lot of fun. They can't handle a little torque steer.
Yeah, our 3.6 seems to really come alive around 3000 rpms and pulls hard after that point, but it gets there pretty darned quick. Still the 3.6 is faster than some of the ss impala's mentioned above. I would have liked to have gotten an ss, but not complaining about the 3.6, especially when I get out on the interstate and it gets 28-30 mpg.

My 6 year constantly asks why. What adults can learn from 5 and 6 year olds, to listen with your ears and mind open. Hard to learn when you don't listen ......
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The 3.6 is a great engine, I have a 2007 GMC Acadia AWD andit has better than average power. When I purchased my 2007 Impala SS, I towed it home over 250 miles without any issues. Pulled like it wasn’t there and got 15 MPG, only problem was stopping. The 5.3 in the SS in the Acadia AWD would have been pretty cool. Acadia Denali GT?
My SS was a rare find, low mileage (72,000), rare color for the year (Red) and not modified. I am going to leave it alone as far as mods as I love it like it is and as the only other ones in my area are black, white orsilver. I did fail to mention one other benefit of the Impala SS as opposed toother vehicles, the insurance is low, as a matter of fact, it’s lower than the Acadia. Something to think about…
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