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Lug nut removal?

So I was going to put new brakes on this 04 Impala and searched a little to find the size I needed for removal was 19MM, awesome, peace of cake... Well, it only fit on the end for the most part, I had to pound it on, and then go buy an electric impact from harbor freight to get the damn things off, only did one tire. I didnt even know about the lugs having covers on them until I came to search more about the problem I had. Seemed almost like they were swollen in the middle if that makes sense, and whoever put them on put them on TIGHT! So now I have 5, pretty much destroyed lugs/covers or whatever. One is pretty much rounded completely, not sure how it even came off, gotta love the impact. Who the hell even comes up with crap like this, such a PITA. I saw 1A autos video about them just unscrewing and screwing back on, but saw a lot of other info that they just come off together with no problems (ha! not for me). So which is, are they supposed to be removable, then take off the lugs? I looked in the car, which is new to me, and there is no lug wrench in there, just the jack. I guess Im just looking for advice on what to do, the one rear tire only has one cover and 4 lugs with no covers so Im assuming they got destroyed at some point too. What do you guys do? Just replace all the lugs with a one piece closed lug? I dont see how these covers ever last and look good after being taken off even once. My 19MM wouldnt fit any of the other covers on the other tires, except one.. so idk..
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You can buy them at NAPA for a pretty reasonable price.

Just buy 20 new ones and move on is my advice.

Stay away from impact guns to loosen, but rather, break free first and then run them off with the impact for speed.
Same with running them down.
Spin them on JUST till they touch bottom and then use torque wrench to take to 100 ft/lb.

Ill fitting worn out sockets from tire shops are the worst thing that can happen to these "clad" lugs.
Sadly it's just the way things are now.
The " chrome" lugs you get at different auto supply places are all the offshore cheapo Chinese made crap that look good for a few months and then start to rust.

Some things are better left unsaid, which I generally realize right after I have said them.
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Are you talking about the lug nuts themselves or some sort of plastic lug nut "covers"?

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I think he means the stainless covers that are pressed on ( or however they do it ) over the actual lugs.

Look like these.

example only but you get the idea

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dorman-611-2...-/371140817320

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just last month my buddies 2013 F150 that originally came from Canada went to the ford dealer for a tire rotation. they told him the chrome caps had started to seperate on the lug nuts and needed to be replaced, they charged him 180 for new lugnuts (needless to say they soaked him pretty good on that price!). looking on rockauto you can find them a lot cheaper, or even the local parts store would be cheaper than the 7 dollars per lug the dealer charged.

that being said, i'd replace them all and you should be good for another 5 plus years i'd imagine (i'd think 5 would be a very low estimate). try to find some that aren't chrome capped.
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Yeah Im talking about the caps, not the lugs themselves, I think Im just going to look for the SS closed end one piece lugs so I dont ever have to worry about the caps getting effed up again, still cant believe they let some idiot even use this idea for so many cars
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I replaced all 20 on my 06 just last year. I kept the OE ones for my winter wheels and tires on plain black steel wheel.

NAPA was by far the cheapest and were the only ones I could find that had the OE look to them. Even here in the "expensive car parts great white north" they were around the $3.50 ea. price. Y'all should be able to get them there for maybe half that.

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Yeah Im talking about the caps, not the lugs themselves, I think Im just going to look for the SS closed end one piece lugs so I dont ever have to worry about the caps getting effed up again, still cant believe they let some idiot even use this idea for so many cars
Old silverado's a lot of times had the plastic caps. Think I used a 3/4 socket on the ones I could not turn by hand. Don't guess I have seen these on an impala.
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Old silverado's a lot of times had the plastic caps. Think I used a 3/4 socket on the ones I could not turn by hand. Don't guess I have seen these on an impala.
They looked like regular lugs to me lol
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