The goal...

vwfye · 08-08-2012, 11:10 PM

Hi all! I think I've found my section of this forum!
I wish to take my 5.0 1992 Caprice from stock a bit modified. It will be my kid hauler, but also my race car hauler.
My buddy did a quick drawing for me. What do ya think?

Joe · 08-09-2012, 04:16 AM

I like it!

12ltz · 08-09-2012, 07:47 AM

Looks good

**donmateo** · 08-09-2012, 10:44 AM

I like it! Go for it!

**Dwayne J** · 08-09-2012, 11:00 AM

A fair number of LT1 sedan owners endup setting up LT1 wagons as tow rigs. Your TBI 305 wont make the HP the LT1 does but towing isn't about HP anyway. How heavy is the loaded trailer?

Far as your signature, I REALLY wish someone still made a decent wagon, after rotting out a few wagons in the wisconsin winters I gave up and drive a crewcab truck.
Not willing to buy a southern car and destroy it in a couple winters here.

vwfye · 08-09-2012, 01:22 PM

I bought the 305 for the torque ;) My car/trailer is less than 3k pounds. VWs don't weigh much!
As to the wagons... I have the Caprice and 4 VW wagons. Plus 3 VW notchbacks, 1 VW fastback and a GL1000. Crap, when I list them, I realize I have a lot of crap!

**Dwayne J** · 08-09-2012, 01:38 PM

Yeah that is nice and lite.

The most radically gutted 90s b-body sedan I know of that still has a stock frame is I think over 3400lbs with a skinny driver, most of the dedicated racecar ones are still in the 36-3700lbs range without driver.

So if the chassis can handle towing those you might have to keep looking in the mirror to make sure your car is still back there.

vwfye · 08-09-2012, 01:41 PM

My race car is a 2000lbs VW Notchback, not a Caprice. I did weigh the wagon today and it was 4520lbs with 1/2 tank of fuel. That is more than 2x the weight of my VW wagons!

waynes91 · 08-09-2012, 03:49 PM

with all that towing may want to look into changing the gears in the rear to 342's or 373's that will add some zip to the whale,but of course theres many things youll need to do, like changing the reluctor for the abs to work correctly,changing the speedo gear in the tranny,some say u need to rebalance the drive shaft (373's) or maybe adding a tru track limit slip posi unit etc,add a tranny cooler.... and never tow in over drive

vwfye · 08-09-2012, 04:18 PM

The transcooler will happen. I have 4 mountains to cross to get to the track 90 miles away. I used to tow with a 4.3 auto... No OD is very familiar.
I find it interesting that my wagon gets better MPG than my s-10 did!

**Dwayne J** · 08-09-2012, 07:05 PM

I understood that the VW was tiny compared to the Caprices other guys tow. I was just saying if wagons can handle a Caprice on a trailer behind them your little VW will be a breeze even if you only have the 305.

Look for the SPID label and tell us the codes it has that start with "G" and we should be able to tell you if you have posi and what gears.

The LT1 cars with the "tow package" which was pretty much a mechanical fan got a 5000lbs rating with 2.93 gears and posi, the guys that tow sedans behind them I think all go to 3.42-3.73.

vwfye · 08-10-2012, 12:51 PM

New day, new adventure... Spent the morning figuring out how to pull the dash apart just to get to the radio. GRRRRR! You have to pull the entire dash front apart. STUPID! So, then I get the new radio adaptor put together, and find out that the wiring adaptor is the wrong one. BTW, I hate wiring and now I get to put wires together and make sure I don't screw up...
Any how, hopefully I'll find the right adaptor and get the dash back together today.

vwfye · 08-10-2012, 04:39 PM

Everything is buttoned up, but this POC antenna is going to be the death of me. I tried to find any issues with it (no reception with the old radio) and couldn't find anything. Installed the new radio and wha-la! I have 1 FM station and no AM stations... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRR!

Were all Caprice aerial antennas this bad? At least I can listen to CDs and my MP3 though it.

**Dwayne J** · 08-10-2012, 05:00 PM

My car has the power unit and it still works both going up and down and reception wise.

vwfye · 08-10-2012, 05:15 PM

mine only has the stationary unit and it is awful.

08-08-2012, 11:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
vwfye Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	The goal... Hi all! I think I've found my section of this forum! I wish to take my 5.0 1992 Caprice from stock a bit modified. It will be my kid hauler, but also my race car hauler. My buddy did a quick drawing for me. What do ya think? Attached Images __________________ I can't help it, I have a thing for wagons!!! 1992 Caprice Wagon-- stock so far, 1973 Squareback, 1968 Squareback w/air ride, 1968 Squareback, 1968 Squareback, 1972 Notchback racer project, 1964 Notchback topless, mid-engine custom, 1964 Notchback turbo charged bracket car, 1968 Fastback, 1981 GL1000 Cafe'd

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08-09-2012, 11:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
Dwayne J Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,649 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts	A fair number of LT1 sedan owners endup setting up LT1 wagons as tow rigs. Your TBI 305 wont make the HP the LT1 does but towing isn't about HP anyway. How heavy is the loaded trailer? Far as your signature, I REALLY wish someone still made a decent wagon, after rotting out a few wagons in the wisconsin winters I gave up and drive a crewcab truck. Not willing to buy a southern car and destroy it in a couple winters here. __________________ Dwayne 96 Caprice with AI 200cc package Best et 11.5 Best MPH 116 Just another taxi

08-09-2012, 01:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
vwfye Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	I bought the 305 for the torque ;) My car/trailer is less than 3k pounds. VWs don't weigh much! As to the wagons... I have the Caprice and 4 VW wagons. Plus 3 VW notchbacks, 1 VW fastback and a GL1000. Crap, when I list them, I realize I have a lot of crap! __________________ I can't help it, I have a thing for wagons!!! 1992 Caprice Wagon-- stock so far, 1973 Squareback, 1968 Squareback w/air ride, 1968 Squareback, 1968 Squareback, 1972 Notchback racer project, 1964 Notchback topless, mid-engine custom, 1964 Notchback turbo charged bracket car, 1968 Fastback, 1981 GL1000 Cafe'd

08-09-2012, 07:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
12ltz Back in Black Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Manassas or Suffolk,Va Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 63 Thanked 154 Times in 118 Posts View My Garage 12ltz	Looks good

08-09-2012, 01:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dwayne J Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,649 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts	Yeah that is nice and lite. The most radically gutted 90s b-body sedan I know of that still has a stock frame is I think over 3400lbs with a skinny driver, most of the dedicated racecar ones are still in the 36-3700lbs range without driver. So if the chassis can handle towing those you might have to keep looking in the mirror to make sure your car is still back there. __________________ Dwayne 96 Caprice with AI 200cc package Best et 11.5 Best MPH 116 Just another taxi

08-09-2012, 01:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
vwfye Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	My race car is a 2000lbs VW Notchback, not a Caprice. I did weigh the wagon today and it was 4520lbs with 1/2 tank of fuel. That is more than 2x the weight of my VW wagons! __________________ I can't help it, I have a thing for wagons!!! 1992 Caprice Wagon-- stock so far, 1973 Squareback, 1968 Squareback w/air ride, 1968 Squareback, 1968 Squareback, 1972 Notchback racer project, 1964 Notchback topless, mid-engine custom, 1964 Notchback turbo charged bracket car, 1968 Fastback, 1981 GL1000 Cafe'd

08-09-2012, 03:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
waynes91 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: groton ct Posts: 581 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	with all that towing may want to look into changing the gears in the rear to 342's or 373's that will add some zip to the whale,but of course theres many things youll need to do, like changing the reluctor for the abs to work correctly,changing the speedo gear in the tranny,some say u need to rebalance the drive shaft (373's) or maybe adding a tru track limit slip posi unit etc,add a tranny cooler.... and never tow in over drive

08-09-2012, 04:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
vwfye Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	The transcooler will happen. I have 4 mountains to cross to get to the track 90 miles away. I used to tow with a 4.3 auto... No OD is very familiar. I find it interesting that my wagon gets better MPG than my s-10 did! __________________ I can't help it, I have a thing for wagons!!! 1992 Caprice Wagon-- stock so far, 1973 Squareback, 1968 Squareback w/air ride, 1968 Squareback, 1968 Squareback, 1972 Notchback racer project, 1964 Notchback topless, mid-engine custom, 1964 Notchback turbo charged bracket car, 1968 Fastback, 1981 GL1000 Cafe'd

08-09-2012, 07:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dwayne J Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,649 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts	I understood that the VW was tiny compared to the Caprices other guys tow. I was just saying if wagons can handle a Caprice on a trailer behind them your little VW will be a breeze even if you only have the 305. Look for the SPID label and tell us the codes it has that start with "G" and we should be able to tell you if you have posi and what gears. The LT1 cars with the "tow package" which was pretty much a mechanical fan got a 5000lbs rating with 2.93 gears and posi, the guys that tow sedans behind them I think all go to 3.42-3.73. __________________ Dwayne 96 Caprice with AI 200cc package Best et 11.5 Best MPH 116 Just another taxi

08-10-2012, 12:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
vwfye Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	New day, new adventure... Spent the morning figuring out how to pull the dash apart just to get to the radio. GRRRRR! You have to pull the entire dash front apart. STUPID! So, then I get the new radio adaptor put together, and find out that the wiring adaptor is the wrong one. BTW, I hate wiring and now I get to put wires together and make sure I don't screw up... Any how, hopefully I'll find the right adaptor and get the dash back together today. __________________ I can't help it, I have a thing for wagons!!! 1992 Caprice Wagon-- stock so far, 1973 Squareback, 1968 Squareback w/air ride, 1968 Squareback, 1968 Squareback, 1972 Notchback racer project, 1964 Notchback topless, mid-engine custom, 1964 Notchback turbo charged bracket car, 1968 Fastback, 1981 GL1000 Cafe'd

08-10-2012, 04:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
vwfye Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Everything is buttoned up, but this POC antenna is going to be the death of me. I tried to find any issues with it (no reception with the old radio) and couldn't find anything. Installed the new radio and wha-la! I have 1 FM station and no AM stations... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRR! Were all Caprice aerial antennas this bad? At least I can listen to CDs and my MP3 though it. __________________ I can't help it, I have a thing for wagons!!! 1992 Caprice Wagon-- stock so far, 1973 Squareback, 1968 Squareback w/air ride, 1968 Squareback, 1968 Squareback, 1972 Notchback racer project, 1964 Notchback topless, mid-engine custom, 1964 Notchback turbo charged bracket car, 1968 Fastback, 1981 GL1000 Cafe'd

08-10-2012, 05:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dwayne J Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,649 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts	My car has the power unit and it still works both going up and down and reception wise. __________________ Dwayne 96 Caprice with AI 200cc package Best et 11.5 Best MPH 116 Just another taxi

08-10-2012, 05:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
vwfye Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	mine only has the stationary unit and it is awful. __________________ I can't help it, I have a thing for wagons!!! 1992 Caprice Wagon-- stock so far, 1973 Squareback, 1968 Squareback w/air ride, 1968 Squareback, 1968 Squareback, 1972 Notchback racer project, 1964 Notchback topless, mid-engine custom, 1964 Notchback turbo charged bracket car, 1968 Fastback, 1981 GL1000 Cafe'd

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