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Old 01-09-2017, 05:21 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Hey fellas, Can I ask a question here? I thought that when the Rosen units were installed if they access the steering wheel controls don't they also access the GM installed mic for the OnStar and Bluetooth as well? My wife says that when I call her from the car that the call quality is great and she hears me just fine.
Unfortunately, no - they definitely do not use the built-in GM mic. On the GM1010, there are 2 little holes labeled "Mic" - that is what the GM1010 uses for phone calls. Maybe it was actually just my crappy cell phone at that time (meaning that the issues were more reception-related than mic-related). Since I don't even use bluetooth streaming, I actually disabled the Rosen bluetooth and use the stock bluetooth since it allows voice dialing, etc. But even with that, I VERY rarely use my phone while in the car. Mainly just if someone happens to call me - and even then, it's usually a VERY brief call.

So maybe the GM1010 MIC quality is acceptable - maybe it was just the crappy phone that I had at the time.

And like I said, the GM1210 does have an internal MIC, but most places (such as ADC Mobile) *highly* recommend using the included external MIC (for sound quality reasons).

This would be easy enough to confirm - the next time you use the phone while in the car, hold your hand over the GM mic and see if the person on the other side can still hear you. But it's my understanding that they do NOT use the GM mic...

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Old 01-09-2017, 05:35 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Hey fellas, Can I ask a question here? I thought that when the Rosen units were installed if they access the steering wheel controls don't they also access the GM installed mic for the OnStar and Bluetooth as well? My wife says that when I call her from the car that the call quality is great and she hears me just fine.
Unfortunately, no - they definitely do not use the built-in GM mic. On the GM1010, there are 2 little holes labeled "Mic" - that is what the GM1010 uses for phone calls. Maybe it was actually just my crappy cell phone at that time (meaning that the issues were more reception-related than mic-related). Since I don't even use bluetooth streaming, I actually disabled the Rosen bluetooth and use the stock bluetooth since it allows voice dialing, etc. But even with that, I VERY rarely use my phone while in the car. Mainly just if someone happens to call me - and even then, it's usually a VERY brief call.

So maybe the GM1010 MIC quality is acceptable - maybe it was just the crappy phone that I had at the time.

And like I said, the GM1210 does have an internal MIC, but most places (such as ADC Mobile) *highly* recommend using the included external MIC (for sound quality reasons).

This would be easy enough to confirm - the next time you use the phone while in the car, hold your hand over the GM mic and see if the person on the other side can still hear you. But it's my understanding that they do NOT use the GM mic...

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In my car I didn't link up with Rosen unit because I don't Bluetooth stream anything anyway. I still link up via the GM system that comes up on my cell phone as "Your Vehicle" like I always have. The Rosen requests to link via Bluetooth but I always decline. Maybe that's why my call quality hasn't declined.

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In my car I didn't link up with Rosen unit because I don't Bluetooth stream anything anyway. I still link up via the GM system that comes up on my cell phone as "Your Vehicle" like I always have. The Rosen requests to link via Bluetooth but I always decline. Maybe that's why my call quality hasn't declined.
Ahh - ok - yeah, that explains it. You're still using the stock bluetooth system, which DOES use the GM mic. You only use the Rosen mic if you are using the Rosen bluetooth.

Most people use the Rosen bluetooth because they want the ability to stream via bluetooth.

You should be able to completely disable the Rosen bluetooth in order to stop that Rosen link request. It's in the hidden installer menu (7253 on the keypad in settings).

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I didn't hook up the Rosen mic to the stereo because I read in several places that you could use the GM mic instead. However, you do have to choose between the Rosen Parrot system or the the stock GM system. I also read that the steering wheel controls do not work with the Rosen BT. So far I have only set the system to work with the Rosen BT and have paired my phone to it. I called my house line from it and the answering machine came through fine, just don't know how my voice sounds on the other side. My contacts transferred to the Rosen but I don't like how it did it... It put them in alphabetical order by last name, not first name like my Droid Turbo does. It also lists mobile as office for the number label. Don't know if this is Rosen or the Motorola Droid Turbo being stupid. Not a big deal but kind of a minor wtf thing.

I just need more time to play around with the stereo and get to know it. Nowadays these things come with so many features you really need to just sit in the car undisturbed and just play with it... Wait, that didn't sound right...

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I didn't hook up the Rosen mic to the stereo because I read in several places that you could use the GM mic instead. However, you do have to choose between the Rosen Parrot system or the the stock GM system. I also read that the steering wheel controls do not work with the Rosen BT. So far I have only set the system to work with the Rosen BT and have paired my phone to it. I called my house line from it and the answering machine came through fine, just don't know how my voice sounds on the other side. My contacts transferred to the Rosen but I don't like how it did it... It put them in alphabetical order by last name, not first name like my Droid Turbo does. It also lists mobile as office for the number label. Don't know if this is Rosen or the Motorola Droid Turbo being stupid. Not a big deal but kind of a minor wtf thing.

I just need more time to play around with the stereo and get to know it. Nowadays these things come with so many features you really need to just sit in the car undisturbed and just play with it... Wait, that didn't sound right...
The only way to use the built-in GM mic is if you are using the stock bluetooth system. If you are using the Rosen bluetooth, you have to use the Rosen mic (either the internal or external on the GM1210 - or internal only on GM1010).

The GM1210 may be better in this respect, but I do remember the quality not being great for the person on the other end with the built-in internal mic on the GM1010.

Interested to hear what you find out after testing more. I know that ADC Mobile *highly* recommends the external MIC on the GM1210 though. Check out ADC Mobiles site - they are considered the "go to" vendor for the Rosen GM1210 and the Advent OGM-1.

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Got a chance to play with the stereo some more. In the BT settings, you can choose between using the built in mic or the external mic for use with the Rosen BT. So it is either stock GM bluetooth, which will work with the steering wheel controls, or the Rosen Parrot BT which I assume does not work with the factory steering wheel controls as stated. I haven't tried it yet to confirm. And as already stated, the Rosen BT will upload your contacts from the phone to the stereo. The stereo is not perfect, but it works for me, well enough that I have zero desire to look at a Pioneer, Kenwood or anything else. If this one were to die on me, I would most likely buy another 1210, probably brand new. I don't see anyone else making a stereo like this with 100% compatibility in mind for this era of GM vehicles.

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Got a chance to play with the stereo some more. In the BT settings, you can choose between using the built in mic or the external mic for use with the Rosen BT. So it is either stock GM bluetooth, which will work with the steering wheel controls, or the Rosen Parrot BT which I assume does not work with the factory steering wheel controls as stated. I haven't tried it yet to confirm. And as already stated, the Rosen BT will upload your contacts from the phone to the stereo. The stereo is not perfect, but it works for me, well enough that I have zero desire to look at a Pioneer, Kenwood or anything else. If this one were to die on me, I would most likely buy another 1210, probably brand new. I don't see anyone else making a stereo like this with 100% compatibility in mind for this era of GM vehicles.
I agree that while these Rosens are definitely not perfect, between the fact that they integrate so well with stock functions, look factory-installed (which was kind of a big thing for me) and are plug-and-play, they really are hard to beat for the prices that you can get them for. And from my experience with the GM1010, they are pretty damn reliable as well.

You also have to remember that these things were designed years ago whereas the big name brands release new models every year - so considering how long ago these things were designed, they are pretty impressive - especially for the price (price matters!). Plus you got the whole dual-zone thing too, which is a nice bonus. You'll get used to the little quirks and figure out work-arounds to them.

Personally, I also like the "understated" interface. I'm not a big fan of the flashing, multi-colored lights thing that most aftermarket brands do...

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I agree... I didn't care for the Kenwood I bought at Crutchfield. Had I paid full retail back when it first came out I would have been pretty mad at myself. I like the understated look as well. When I do something with the wood grain it will look even better in there. I like the Rosen and I have no problem recommending it to anyone.

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Glad your enjoying your "new" 1210. Had mine for a while now and love it. I would recommend using the external mic if using the Rosen BT. Much better quality. Ive had no complaints of voice quality. I put the mic at the rear view mirror. As for the obnoxious chime, one option is to wrap it in foam. I wrapped mine with quite a bit of foam and put it in the space to the right of the radio down low. Door chime volume is bearable now. Signal volume is low.
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My wife took my car and paired her phone up with the stereo and both people she talked to said her voice was pretty clear. I may install the external mic and try it to see if there is a difference.

Back up cam is coming soon, probably sometime next month.

Burned my first DVD today and played it in the car... Rocking and rolling now. Gonna sound worlds better when I upgrade the speakers and get my sub going. The radio is great, aside from a couple of quirky issues, I am happy with it. My wife wants one in her 2004 Yukon. Anyone know if one of the older Rosen units will work in that truck?

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