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Old 06-10-2010, 06:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Intermittant Starting issue-2000 Impala with apparent good alt/battery, no open circ.

2000 Impala, 3.8 V6, 147,000 miles

This has happened twice in about a month. My car is fine, I drive to work. It sits during the day. I go out, and attempt to start and I get:Turn Key (dashboard engages, gauges move), Fans come on, Ignition clicks but won't turn engine and the guages dim as if the battery is dead. There is a clicking and sometimes the engine tries to turn. If I do this a few times I get to a point where turning the key engages the dashboard but I get no turning over or clicking at all. Once the gas gauge didn't even cycle.

The first time it happened I jumped it and went home. I hooked up the multimeter to the battery and Voila- Im getting 17+ volts at the battery with the DRL, fans on high, and radio on.

This morning I started it, drove to work (about 6 miles), stopped in the drive through and shut it off to wait. Turning the key to start-same thing, clicking, but no turn over. I jumped it again, drove across the street to work, shut it off. Waited a few minutes (less than 5) and then turn the key-instant start, no problems.


WTH? When it doesn't start it acts like a low battery/alternator type condition, but the volt test shows the battery getting charge. I drive between 12 and 20 miles a day, and my wife drives my car 3-4 days a week for work as well. This has only happened twice in a month.

The only thing running in the car plugged in is an Ipod touch. The interior lights, etc, are off. I had to jiggle the dimmer mirror cable because the mirror lights weren't coming on about a week ago (my sunvisor touches the cables when I fit it up under the mirror), but for weird electrical thats about it.

Does anyone have any ideas?


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starter going out?

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I thought of that as a part of a list of possibilities-is there a way to test the starter itself? Why would a jump allow the engine to start?

Thanks! The intermittence is the part that bugs me the most. What does the 'passlock' issue act like?

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passlock usually you wont get ANYTHING when you turn the key fwd

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Agree on the starter. Solenoid could be going out. Causing excessive draw.

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Thanks, guys!

I really wanted to winnow it down between either passlock or just a standard starter/charging/voltage,etc issue. Ive never seen the passlock one myself, so I didn't know the symptoms.

I went out a few minutes ago and it started right up. When solenoids are failing, do they do that? Can AZ or Oreilly's, etc bench/on car test something like that?

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I really wanted to winnow it down between either passlock or just a standard starter/charging/voltage,etc issue. Ive never seen the passlock one myself, so I didn't know the symptoms.

I went out a few minutes ago and it started right up. When solenoids are failing, do they do that? Can AZ or Oreilly's, etc bench/on car test something like that?

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They can bench it, but not an on car test. The problem is that with an intermittent problem, you have to pray that it's deciding to be intermittent when you take it in.

BCM issues are not usually intermittent because it's a solid state device. Wiring could be eliminated because an excessive draw would only be caused by a short to ground, which either something should break hard, or pop a fuse.

That leaves components. Yes, the solenoid can be intermittent if the dielectric is getting worn away. Or it could be an issue with the windings in the starter. If it's something else, then you'll pretty much have to wait for a hard fail or just randomly shotgun components.

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Damn, Wanderson-you know how to ruin a guys day :-)


Thanks. I suppose I can start with the solenoid and go from there, though the solenoid and starter are a paired unit, probably, right? Cheaper just to have the starter motor rebuilt, maybe?

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