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Neighbor selling 2004 SS Indianapolis edition

Hey all I have a 2013 Impala LTZ absolutely love the car. I've always liked the 7th generation Impalas as well and my neighbor is selling a 2004 Impala SS Indianapolis Edition and for $1,000. The car is absolutely immaculate it has 200,000 miles on it and some transmission issues. I'm debating on whether or not I should buy it. Just wondering what everyone's thoughts on this my day and any input is extremely helpful so no holding back. Looking forward to your responses.
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Hey all I have a 2013 Impala LTZ absolutely love the car. I've always liked the 7th generation Impalas as well and my neighbor is selling a 2004 Impala SS Indianapolis Edition and for $1,000. The car is absolutely immaculate it has 200,000 miles on it and some transmission issues. I'm debating on whether or not I should buy it. Just wondering what everyone's thoughts on this my day and any input is extremely helpful so no holding back. Looking forward to your responses.
The price is good. You have to weigh how much time, effort and money you want to put into it. Old cars, whether they're beaters or classics, need frequent attention. I want a hot rod, but I'm getting a good taste of what it takes to keep an old car going thanks to my kids and their old beaters, two 2002 Impalas and a 2007 Pontiac G6, along with my 97 F-150 and 95 Sea-Ray. There will be frequent repairs for everything ranging from brakes to door locks, and finding replacement parts can be difficult.

IIRC, the 04 SS has a supercharger, correct? So there's a high dollar repair waiting to happen. And, with 200k miles, you may need to pull the motor and have a machine shop go thru it. So you could find yourself with grease up to your elbows on several projects.

OTOH, you have something approaching a classic, and some may consider it one. That is, finding the time and energy to keep it going is a lot easier for a classic than a beater

If I'm not under too much pressure, I enjoy wrenching on my fleet, but sometimes it can be stressful, especially for complex repairs done with time constraints.

In your case, if it's gonna be your toy and not your daily driver, then working on it should be less stressful - ie, more like hobby time.

So, if you don't have a bunch of other chores or hobbies that require lots of time and money, then I say go for it.

You may want to cultivate some ties with other local car guys who can help with it. I have a couple buds who will wrench for beer and brats, and one has both an engine hoist and engine stand. So getting a motor pulled and sent to the machine shop isn't a pipe dream (for me), more like a Friday evening or Saturday afternoon. Altho, in our group, the last guy to borrow the stand or hoist has to store it until the next guy wants to borrow it

Anyway, if you're looking for a nice project car and are willing to spend time keeping it nice, it sounds like you have found a good one.

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Grrrr, I was i was closer to NY lol.... 1000 for any INDY I would buy.. One if it was normal SS 04 then really no big deal but if all the INDY parts are still there, They are rare and the just under 5000 that was made are not all on the road anymore.. I would almost guess there is a good chance there is less then 4000 left on the road that may be even a higher number then really there... Again this is total built. I am not sure if that is total built for USA or total for the Indy, However I think it is the Indy SS...

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Hey all I have a 2013 Impala LTZ absolutely love the car. I've always liked the 7th generation Impalas as well and my neighbor is selling a 2004 Impala SS Indianapolis Edition and for $1,000. The car is absolutely immaculate it has 200,000 miles on it and some transmission issues. I'm debating on whether or not I should buy it. Just wondering what everyone's thoughts on this my day and any input is extremely helpful so no holding back. Looking forward to your responses.
A good trans build will run close to $2500... Check out TEP for this. After that, the suspension should be checked and parts should be replaced as needed. You need to find out what all has been done to it over the years and decide if it is worth putting the money into. The supercharger isn't a big deal but hopefully the SC oil was changed at least once. If you fire it up and there is noise, it will be evident. You will also hear a rattle at accel if there are SC issues. All in all, they are fun cars but GM bit the bag on the transmissions and many a 3.8 W-body guys have paid the price, some more than once.

If this is something you can park and work on at your leisure when it needs it and just drive once in a while when you feel like it, then I would say go for it. You will probably put more into it than it may be worth so consider that when you crunch numbers. Me personally, if it didn't need much more than the trans work at the moment and I had the space, I'd most likely buy it, but I can do the work myself. I would farm out the trans rebuild but I would do everything else myself in phases. You can always buy it and then sit on it until you are ready to put some money into it.

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What's the difference between the Indy edition and a regular 2004 Impala SS?
I assume badges, floor mats, and embroidered headrests. Maybe a production number placard? Anything else?

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No that is about it. I think I am not 100% but I think they also had the first Gold/Yellow Bowtie and was carried over to all models in 05. Has extra Badge on the outside front fenders of the Wing and Wheel Indy Logo, Also has a 6 Gauge SS Cluster but says Limited Edition on it. There was 4088 built and that was after I just looked it up for USA and Canada productions. So there is even a lower number then I was projecting in the US and to me one day will be even more rare then they are today. Around me they range between 3000 to 5000 and seen one they were asking 14k, Rare but not 14k rare yet lol. Ones for 3k need trans or motor work, and or Wrecked title. That was why i said if I could find them for 1k I would buy for sure...

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What's the difference between the Indy edition and a regular 2004 Impala SS?
I assume badges, floor mats, and embroidered headrests. Maybe a production number placard? Anything else?
It had a unique grille and chrome wheels in 04. 05 the grille became standard on SS's and the chrome wheels became an option but for 04 it was unique.

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Good luck with it if you get it. I would in a heartbeat at that price, if for nothing more than a future project for me and my 5 year old son.

Had a 79 indy pace car back in the late 80's when I was in college, came from the factory with recaro seats, had all the decals, sunroof, louvers and hood scoop. Were not that many of those cars made with the 302, but I had one and it was not completely stock. I know, wrong forum for that manufacturer, but that little mustang was pretty quick in its time, low 14's in the quarter, would hang right in with the gn's. Synchro's were messed up and it would not usually go into 3rd, but did not really need it for the quarter. Blew a head gasket in the car and over time bought everything needed to completely rebuild it including new blackjack headers, holley 750 carb, edelbrock intake, and a .30 over trw forged piston kit from summit, had a new set of heads bought from a shop mechanic I knew too. The shop I took the block to screwed up my block when they bored it over though and put too much chamfer on the surface. Ended up having a lot of my stuff getting ripped off and never finished the car.

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