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New Key Fob

Sooooo... I needed a new remote key fob for my 2012 Impala LTZ. I already knew where to get a replacement from besides paying the astronomical prices for one from a GM stealership, BUT I wondered if there were any other options. I did a Google Search on the 'FCC' and 'IC' numbers on the back of my OEM key fob and learned that Cadillac and other GM vehicles used the same frequencies but different key fob styles.

One of my Google Searches lead me to a vendor on eBay that sold remotes with the frequencies I needed at a price of only $30, so I bought one. I had it programmed today at a local locksmith for only $40, which is half the price of what a stealership will charge. Everything works! The range on it isn't as far as the OEM remote, though, but that isn't a big deal since I use the OnStar app on my phone anyway for long distance remote car starting for when the weather is cold or really hot.

Anyhoooo... here's my new remote. I also had a new GM key cut today as well for only $2... I purchased the blank off of eBay for $15 over a year ago.

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Looks good! Can you point me in the direction of where to find one? My brother decided to lose my spare keyfob a few months ago, been avoiding replacing it...
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Here's the eBay vendor I purchased mine from:

New Remote Start Keyless Entry Key Fob Control Replacement for OUC6000066 5b | eBay

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I also had a new GM key cut today as well for only $2... I purchased the blank off of eBay for $15 over a year ago.

Not that $2 is a lot, but Wal-Mart will cut your key for free if you bring in the blank. Either that or the guy I had just didn't feel like ringing me up.
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Can owners of '12+ Impalas program their own duplicate keys/remotes themselves?
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Can owners of '12+ Impalas program their own duplicate keys/remotes themselves?
According to the owners manual, it looks like we can program extra keys, but not the remotes...

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JT, like Ford, do you need 2 original keys to start with in order to program more?
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According to the owners manual, it looks like we can program extra keys, but not the remotes...

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This is correct. Programming a new key is simple... takes less than 2 minutes. I really don't understand the point of these newer chipped keys since the programming is so simple. It's not like you have to enter any type of security code to get the car's ECM in programming mode or anything for it to sync with the new key.

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JT, like Ford, do you need 2 original keys to start with in order to program more?
It looks like you just need the original key and the new key.

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I really don't understand the point of these newer chipped keys since the programming is so simple. It's not like you have to enter any type of security code to get the car's ECM in programming mode or anything for it to sync with the new key.
Well, you do need the original key to program a new one, so it is still "secure"...

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It looks like you just need the original key and the new key.



Well, you do need the original key to program a new one, so it is still "secure"...

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If you have a mated key for the vehicle you stole there's no reason to make another...

Making it more difficult for the owner to make another key only benefits the people that can make said key.

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If you have a mated key for the vehicle you stole there's no reason to make another...

Making it more difficult for the owner to make another key only benefits the people that can make said key.
I'm not following your logic here - would you rather that anyone can just easily make a key for your car (without having the original)?? It's not difficult at all for the owner to make a duplicate key - it takes all of 10 seconds and you can do it yourself.

This chipped keys also stop people from using "shaved" keys and things like that to steal your car.

I don't know, makes sense to me... ?

Now needing to go to a dealership to get keyfobs programmed (even if you have the original), now that I agree is a PIA! :-)

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Well, you do need the original key to program a new one, so it is still "secure"...

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I forgot all about that small detail.

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I'm not following your logic here - would you rather that anyone can just easily make a key for your car (without having the original)?? It's not difficult at all for the owner to make a duplicate key - it takes all of 10 seconds and you can do it yourself.

This chipped keys also stop people from using "shaved" keys and things like that to steal your car.

I don't know, makes sense to me... ?

Now needing to go to a dealership to get keyfobs programmed (even if you have the original), now that I agree is a PIA! :-)

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A bump key will not have the chip mated to the controllers and you shouldn't be able to mate a single unmated key to the controller without a Tech 2 or 30 minute re-learn. If you know the 30 minute re-learn you realize it can't be easily done with a bump key.

If you already have one of the mated and cut keys you can already steal the car. Why bother with making another? Cars are stolen to be chopped up for parts. Honestly some of the more well organized thieves just back up with a tow truck and tow the victim to the chop shop.

There's no reason to make it more difficult for the owner to make a new key or FOB using his already mated spare key or FOB. If you've lost all of the already mated parts then you shouldn't be allowed by the controller to make a fresh set without factory scan tool intervention... It would be nice if the spare key or spare FOB learn procedure unlinked any keys or FOBS, whichever you're linking, that are not present to be programmed. Unfortunately the lost key or FOB is still in the active list of up to ten keys if you don't use a Tech 2 or equally capable scan tool.

Mating a Key without at least one mated key should probably require a connection to the authorized dealership net so that your handy dandy local thieves guild with a Chinese Tech 2 can't do it without exposing their forged GM technician credentials, ISP IP location information, the Tech 2 Ident, and the VIN of the stolen vehicle... making it easier to prosecute them once caught.

VW and many other MFG lock their customers out of making a new spare even when they have one mated key. That's profit driven. Coding the security controls such that it's secure without locking out the owner probably takes more effort and the dealerships loose an extremely profitable easy job.

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Your new fob looks great. I might have to order a new key fob because one of mine has a crack and doesn't open and close too well.

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Thank you!

OP, thanks for the head's up on the fob.

I bought two of them and a Dorman fob programmer off the Bay. Programming took less than a minute, and both new fobs work perfectly.

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