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Old 08-09-2012, 02:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What the hell happened to wagons anyway? They're almost non-existent now, instead all we have is these ridiculous SUV's.
SUVs count as light trucks station wagons count as cars. Station wagons penalize CAFE.

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Old 08-09-2012, 02:51 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Holden Ute. They're pretty cool. I'd prefer the wagon....

this is beast, just saying

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Old 08-09-2012, 03:02 PM   #18 (permalink)
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^^I agree! I'd drive that!!^^

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What the hell happened to wagons anyway? They're almost non-existent now, instead all we have is these ridiculous SUV's.
soccer moms..................

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Old 08-09-2012, 04:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Were those the same bean counters that approved the 5.7 diesel, the chevette, the citation, the cimarron, and the vega?
They are all dead thankfully

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Holden Ute. They're pretty cool. I'd prefer the wagon....

Yes. I'm all for a nice wagon


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Old 08-09-2012, 04:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Living here, since I can't import the Holden....white CTS-V wagon with black wheels, tint, red calipers. Done deal. :)

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Old 08-09-2012, 06:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Of course CAFE, the same reason europe can have diesels that get 65mpg but we only get 45, what a great system.

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Old 08-09-2012, 08:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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That blue one is mean, sexy, and can carry the family, all in one!! That little "V" down on the side of it means it can get the job done too!!

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I just wish they'd pick it up with interiors. Why do we still have cheesy plastic everywhere? GIVE ME SOME SUBSTANCE GM.

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Old 08-11-2012, 11:32 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I think they did a really nice job with the XTS and ATS. This is where Cadillac is heading.


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I just wish they'd pick it up with interiors. Why do we still have cheesy plastic everywhere? GIVE ME SOME SUBSTANCE GM.
Yeah, I agree. I don't have too much issue with the interior of my LTZ, but my wife's Saturn is absolute JUNK inside. Nice looking car, rides okay, gets great gas mileage, but the interior has rattles and shakes and the handle on the center console literally self-destructed in my hand one day when I opened it. Fortunately at that time it was still under warranty so the local Chevy dealership took care of it, but that happened at less than 40,000 miles...

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Old 08-12-2012, 06:16 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I just wish they'd pick it up with interiors. Why do we still have cheesy plastic everywhere? GIVE ME SOME SUBSTANCE GM.
Have you seen a Chrysler interior prior to 2012?

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