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Not that is matters for the wiring, but what "type" of backup camera did you get (license plate frame, license plate bar, stand-alone, etc)?

For the wiring, it's pretty easy, but I did learn the hard way not to try and use "tap-in" style connectors - the wires coming from the backup camera are usually so thin (high gauge) compared to the wires used in the lights, so the "tap-in" connectors don't make good enough contact. The best way is to strip a little bit of the insulation from the middle of backup light wires and just wrap the camera wires around them. I would also HIGHLY recommend liquid electrical tape for this task since its waterproof and seals everything up nicely (I used regular electrical tape over the dried liquid electrical tape as well).

I have a picture of the wires that you need to tap into somewhere - there are three wires, so you need to tap into the correct wires (only two wires coming from the backup camera). It's actually a pretty easy task - just need to route the wires from the backup camera to the lights - the lights come out very easily (just a few screw-on do-dads hold the lights in).

Depending on the camera type, I may have some additional tips.

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I bought this small camera. I liked the silver color and it's small. For only 17 bucks, I figured if I couldn't figure out a good inconspicuous spot to mount at the top of the plate I wasn't out to much $$. I didn't want to go with a license frame camera because I like the college frame I have on their now.
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Would love to have a pic of the correct tail light wires to splice into if you can find it. Thanks!


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Actually, it was a post on right here on this (absolutely awesome) forum where I eventually found this picture and a description of which wires that you need to tap into. Luckily, I saved it as a favorite in my browser - here is a link to the thread.

http://www.impalaforums.com/chevy-im...g-diagram.html

Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions and I'm looking forward to pics of the camera install when done! :-)

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I realize this is a 2yr old thread, but I remember seeing it back then .. just didnt do anything about it till now .. found a GM1010-P11 on eBay for $90. It's As-Is, but powers on. Ships free from LA, Ca, so a day or two to AZ .. eh, several others I'm looking at if this doesnt work .. $90 isnt a LOT of $$, and many others I found, including the OGM-1 are lots more.

My ride is a 2012 Impala LT, Enterprise rental model, non Nav, XM or OnStar. The radio was the standard large center volume, AM/FM/CD only, swapped for AM/FM/AUX/RDS model, but still no Nav, XM or OS .. wanting to get Nav, XM and backup cam .. wish me luck.
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Just be aware, that those $90 1010's doesn't come with the main wiring harness, the GPS antenna, GPS SD card, backup camera harness, etc. So basically, you'll have a $90 paperweight unless you can source those other items. That is assuming that it even works at all. There is a reason why they are $90. :-)

The main wiring harnesses can cost $100-$200 alone (if you can even find one), GPS card another $80+, GPS antenna $25, etc, etc, etc. So even if the radio itself does work, you're not going to be able to do anything with it. Hopefully you didn't order it yet! I haven't seen any Rosen 1010 wiring harnesses on Ebay ever - and Rosen will not sell them to you unless you are a dealer anyway.

With all of that said, you *may* be able to somehow make a harness, but it will not be easy. You'd need to find the right connector (that goes into the back of the 1010) and then figure out the wiring - then cut your factory radio wires and "hardwire" tem. Like I said, will not be easy.

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Something else to consider - the Rosen units do NOT have an XM tuner in them. They simply have the ability to interface with the factory XM tuner. So if your car doesn't already have XM, installing a Rosen will not give you XM.

Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news about the missing components with the $90 unit and the fact that the Rosen won't give you XM functionality on it's own, but you're going to find out soon enough anyway.

Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions about the Rosen units (especially the GM1010) - I've spent a LOT of time with these things and have even completely disassembled and reassembled them. I literally know them inside and out.

That being said, if you happen to get a wiring harness for the 1010 you bought and everything works out OK, let me know - I can help you out in building a GPS SD card at no cost (other than the cost of a blank SD card). Besides being a lot cheaper than buying an "official" one, the one we build would also have the latest version of the iGo Primo application, latest maps/pois, custom skins, redlight/speed camera database, better TTS voices, etc...

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Something else to consider - the Rosen units do NOT have an XM tuner in them. They simply have the ability to interface with the factory XM tuner. So if your car doesn't already have XM, installing a Rosen will not give you XM.
I have been eyeing a touch screen nav unit for a long time and what has been stopping me is XM, So I currently have XM "subscription"(not really a subscription they just never turned off my 3 month free trial and 2 years later its still going strong) on the stock radio, If I upgrade to the Rosen I will keep this functionality?
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Yes, you will keep it. Since the Rosen uses the stock XM tuner, your XM "radio ID" will not change. So no XM device "transfer" is required since your XM ID won't change.

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Awesome, I may have to pick up one of these to install when I do the "brushed aluminum" interior switch. Iirc you posted a link to a rosen outlet website, Would you still happen to have that link someplace I cant seem to find it.
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Now for the bad news - they are no longer selling the GM1010 refurbished units via the Rosen Outlet site! In fact the Rosen Outlet site is not active anymore.

Rosen was recently acquired by AAMP. AAMP *did* put up a new site where you can still buy Rosen *accessories*, but not refurbished head-units. I've sent multiple emails to them asking about the ability to purchase the refurbished head-units, but they never respond. I have a feeling that you can no longer purchase them. You might want to send them an email and ask them - maybe you'll get a response. When they were selling them, they were $325-$375.

Here is the now AAMP site for Rosen accessories:
http://aampglobal.com/catalog/rosen-...t-accessories/


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I sent an email to them and they replied that they dont sell Rosen units to the general public

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That sucks about them not selling the refurbished units anymore.

That being said, if interested in a used GM1010 for a great price, PM me - I *might* be able to help...

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I have a few laying around! :-) Excuse the mess, it's a workbench area!

My leaning tower of Rosen...




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how much out of curiosity?

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