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Talking Tesla’s Rosen GM1210 Project

Although my factory Bose audio system sounded fine, it was a little short on expandability, so I contacted jtrosky about acquiring one of his customized Rosen radios to replace the OEM head unit. Jim told me that he currently had none of the GM1010’s, but he did have a 1210 that he could send me. Done deal.

Besides the GPS navigation that the unit would include, I wanted an easy-access USB port and a backup camera, so while Jim was busy setting up and testing the Rosen, I set about looking into my options for those two additions. I discovered that GM parts that would enable me to replace one of the two 12V power ports under the center stack with a USB port were available, so I bought the three parts to make a complete kit. Buying only the snap-in trim ring/cover assembly and port module would have saved me a few dollars, but the Rosen was equipped with the GM-style locking USB connector, and so was the port, so I opted for the genuine GM cable with locking plugs. For those who are interested, the three parts necessary to complete the kit are shown below with their individual part numbers.




Backup cameras are ubiquitous and cheap, so I bought two, one with backup parking lines and one without. The camera with the parking lines was an Esky EC170-08, and the one without them was the Audiovox CMOS2 model. Although I hadn’t paid any attention at the time, the Esky was a CCD model, so I could compare the image quality between the two while I was determining whether or not I wanted the parking lines. More on that later.

Being a lefty, I generally take a “big picture” approach to my projects, so once I had all the bits and pieces in hand, I decided to work from the periphery into the head unit, leaving the final installation of that for last. First up, would be the replacement of one of the console 12V power ports with the USB port. This meant partially removing the console in order to get to the connector and clips on the power port. Fortunately, I had bought a soft copy set of shop manuals for the car, so I knew exactly how to go about it. The trim panel around the shifter is secured with speed clips, so it pops right out, revealing two screws with 7mm hex heads. Four more identical screws are located under the little felt pad inside the storage compartment beneath the arm rest. Once these six retainers have been removed the rear of the console can be tilted up and slid back to reveal the connectors and power ports, as shown below:




In the above photo, you can see that I’ve already removed the power port that I decided to replace. All that remained to do was to snap the USB trim ring and cover into the open hole, and then snap the USB port into the trim ring.

IMPORTANT: DO NOT SNAP THE PORT INTO THE RING PRIOR TO INSTALLING THE RING IN THE HOLE!

Installing the GPS antenna was next up. I removed the two A-pillar trim covers (secured with one screw and two speed clips each), and popped out the defroster panel (secured with speed clips). This gave me a clear view through the windshield of exactly what was there, making it easy to select a good spot for the antenna. As you can see in the photos below (please excuse the reflections off the windshield), there is a nice galvanized steel plate on the passenger side that the magnetic antenna base will grip to very tightly, making it unnecessary to use the little sticky-back metal pad that comes with the antenna. I found an area on the plate where I could wedge the antenna in between a bolt and pop-rivet, to prevent it from sliding laterally, as shown in the close-up below.






I followed Jim’s suggestion and popped off the dash end cap (3 speed clips) to route the cable down into the dash. Then, I opened the glove box and fully lowered it, again following Jim’s instructions, to run the cable to the center stack in the area behind the box. After moving the antenna away from all the speed clip holes, I snapped the defroster panel and dash side cover back in place.

Next, I needed to run a video RCA cable for the backup camera. I also wanted to run the USB and GPS antenna cables into the area where the OEM head unit was located, so it was now time to remove the old unit. The trim bezel is retained with only speed clips and pops right off, revealing six screws that need to be removed.



The two fasteners (7mm hex head) securing the HVAC controls need to be removed first. After disconnecting the two HVAC electrical harnesses and setting it aside, I removed the four screws securing the radio and slid it out far enough to disconnect its two harnesses and the radio antenna. After the head unit was disconnected, I set it aside. I then ran the USB cable up to an opening on the driver side of the open center stack, and ran the GPS antenna into the center stack from an opening on the passenger side. I then taped a video cable to the GPS antenna cable, so I could use it as a fish line to pull the video cable into the center stack, as well. The photo below shows the end result:




Next, I needed power for the camera. I wanted the camera continuously powered, rather than live only when the car was backing, and I already had the ideal connection in mind. I had previously located a retained power wire source for my radar detector, so I added a camera power lead to the same spot. The yellow wire with the stripe shown in the photo below exhibits the same behavior as the radio power circuit. It doesn’t go hot until the car is started, but it remains hot after the car is switched off – until the door is opened. Perfect.




There’s a bolt near that 12V power tap that provides a solid chassis ground, so I connected a camera ground lead there. Then, I sleeved both wires in a fiberglass jacket for extra durability and ran them and the video cable along the rocker panel and into the trunk through a small opening that I had located behind the rear seatback. The opening I used is visible in the photo below.




In preparation for the camera installation, I had already removed most of the trunk panels, and with the signal and power cables now in the trunk, it was time to decide which camera I wanted to use. I connected up the Rosen and rested it in the center stack opening while I ran my little comparison. Daytime performance between the two cameras was virtually identical. Both had good color and decent dynamic range, as demonstrated by their ability to still provide good shadow detail while viewing a scene that was primarily in bright sunshine. Both cameras also displayed the same amount of image grain. The only real difference I could see was that backing lines were superimposed over one image. I decided I didn’t want the backing grid, so I opted for the camera without them, which happened to be the Audiovox CMOS2.

The CMOS2 camera comes with an assortment of different mounting hardware, including a surface-mount housing, which I had already painted the same color as the car’s body after slotting the mounting holes so I could use the same screws that secure the license plate lamp. Below are a couple photos of the mounted camera. I have not yet used the Dupli-Color touch-up paint on the screws, but rest assured that WILL be done.





I sheathed the camera cable with a fiberglass jacket and ran it up into the trunk through the body grommet below the passenger tail lamp that Jim had suggested. But I also slit a second opening in this grommet and ran the cable through that, rather than pinching it between the grommet and the panel Then, I sealed the grommet with black silicone sealant. The photo below shows how it all looked after connecting everything up and tie-wrapping the harness to the OEM harness already there.




Now, about the “BRAKE” cable on the Rosen ... if you connect it as the manufacturer instructs, certain functions, such as DVD playback, will be prohibited unless you have the parking brake set, but if you simply ground that wire, those restrictions disappear. My trusty DVM indicated that the three bolts behind the radio/HVAC controls in the back of the center stack opening offered solid chassis ground, so I used one of those, as shown in the photo below.




After hooking up all of the connections on the Rosen, I slid it all the way into position and screwed it to the center stack. Then, I reinstalled the HVAC controls and the trim bezel. The finished installation looked like this:




Nav functionality looks like this:






The image from the backup cam looks like this:




The radio screen looks like this:




And finally, a DVD image looks like this:




My initial impression of Jim’s customized Rosen GM1210 is 100% positive. The unit sounds at least as good as the OEM head unit, if not a little better. It offers many source options that the factory unit didn’t, and it looks like it was installed when the car was built. I love it! My thanks to Jim for making this possible, and for being there with the answers to my questions during the installation.

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Absolutely awesome write up!! Thank you so much for taking the time to take pictures and then documenting everything along the way - I'm sure that this will come in handy for others (and I'll probably steal a picture or two to add to my custom documentation as well!!). :-)

Very nicely done! Glad to hear that you are enjoying the unit.

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Super write up. Jim spoon fed me instructions.

I love the way your camera looks too!

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Thanks, guys. And, Jim, you're more than welcome to use anything you would like from my little write-up.

Cheers, and Happy Memorial Day!

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I have a question about your camera if you don't mind.

I was going to put my camera exactly where you put yours, using the screw holes already present. However, I noticed that it covered the license plate lamp, and probably cut out enough light where I'd be attracting a bunch of cops.

Since it was 3 in the afternoon, I installed it off to the side and just left it. Never really thought about it until I saw your post.

Do you know if your camera is blocking enough of the license plate lamp for it to be an issue? Or is the license plate still visible? If it's still visible, I might move mine over to the center like yours.

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I have a question about your camera if you don't mind.

I was going to put my camera exactly where you put yours, using the screw holes already present. However, I noticed that it covered the license plate lamp, and probably cut out enough light where I'd be attracting a bunch of cops.

Since it was 3 in the afternoon, I installed it off to the side and just left it. Never really thought about it until I saw your post.

Do you know if your camera is blocking enough of the license plate lamp for it to be an issue? Or is the license plate still visible? If it's still visible, I might move mine over to the center like yours.

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I checked it the first night. The camera and cable do cut the amount of light reaching the plate, but do not completely block it, whether or not it's enough to be an issue for the local constabulary remains to be seen. Worst case, I'll get a fix-it ticket and have 30 days to address the complaint, but I doubt I'll ever be rousted about it.

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Is the Esky EC170-08 really a CCD camera? This Amazon link says it's CMOS:




But then it seems that some places say it's CCD. Best I can tell, the 2015 and earlier version was CCD and the newer versions are CMOS (or something along those lines). I always hate it when a manufacturer changes major components in an item but leaves the model number the same - that drives me crazy - just causes so much confusion.

How is nighttime video quality with the Audiovox?

And thank you - I'm definitely going to steal some of your pictures and/or write-up for the documentation that I distribute with the GM1210 (I have a few more that I'll be putting up for sale shortly). :-)

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Is the Esky EC170-08 really a CCD camera? This Amazon link says it's CMOS:

Amazon.com: Esky EC170-08 Waterproof Night Vision HD CMOS 170°Viewing Field Car Rear View Backup Camera: Car Electronics

But then it seems that some places say it's CCD. Best I can tell, the 2015 and earlier version was CCD and the newer versions are CMOS (or something along those lines). I always hate it when a manufacturer changes major components in an item but leaves the model number the same - that drives me crazy - just causes so much confusion.

How is nighttime video quality with the Audiovox?

And thank you - I'm definitely going to steal some of your pictures and/or write-up for the documentation that I distribute with the GM1210 (I have a few more that I'll be putting up for sale shortly). :-)
The Amazon vendor from whom I bought the Esky (same vendor you linked) listed it as a CMOS, and I was fine with that. But when I received the camera and read the specs in the owner's manual, which are reasonably complete, the sensor was listed as a CCD. It is confusing and I could be wrong, but I'm inclined to believe the documentation that was packed with the unit.

I've only sampled the nighttime image with the Audiovox on the street in front of my house, which is only dimly lit. The image was grainy, but still usable - exactly what I expected based on most of the reviews I've read.

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Looks good. May have to break down and do this with our 2012, so tired of getting in the car and my wife having the old goofy garmin hanging off the windshield.

Backup cameras are sure nice for hooking up a trailer on the rare occasion I pull one with our durango, but I very rarely ever look at it when backing any other times. No back up camera in my old 3/4 ton truck, but hope to change that soon with a new truck.
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Looks good. May have to break down and do this with our 2012, so tired of getting in the car and my wife having the old goofy garmin hanging off the windshield.

Backup cameras are sure nice for hooking up a trailer on the rare occasion I pull one with our durango, but I very rarely ever look at it when backing any other times. No back up camera in my old 3/4 ton truck, but hope to change that soon with a new truck.
If you upgrade to a Rosen, you'll be glad that you did. These are outstanding units with quality construction and great flexibility.

I'm accustomed to using the Google Maps in my phone, because I travel quite a bit and am often driving a rental, so the navigation feature wasn't the primary attraction for me. The backup camera capability was. The car's tall trunk and thick C-pillars made backing an act of faith, which was somewhat disconcerting.

There are undoubtedly many different reasons for upgrading from the OEM head unit, based on varying priorities, but the Rosen radios seem to satisfy just about everyone. They seem to have all the bases covered.

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The car's tall trunk and thick C-pillars made backing an act of faith, which was somewhat disconcerting.
Ain't that the truth.

I double down on the Rosen sentiment, best upgrade I could have possibly put in my car. Special thanks to Jim for all his assistance!

Tesla, I moved my camera to the middle like you did. So much better. It's not at an angle anymore! Some light gets through, hopefully it'll be enough to keep the fuzz satisfied around me in Indiana!
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ESKY EC170-08 Waterproof Rear View Reverse Camera Kit Back Up 170 HD Color CCD | eBay

I just ordered a camera like yours for 16 buck shipped on eBay....Going to set it up, painted white, just like yours. Going to look nicer than the current frame mount camera. Current works great, was only 20 bucks, lasted through the MI winter well....but yours looks way nicer. Current mount is below:


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I just ordered a camera like yours for 16 buck shipped on eBay....Going to set it up, painted white, just like yours. Going to look nicer than the current frame mount camera. Current works great, was only 20 bucks, lasted through the MI winter well....but yours looks way nicer. Current mount is below:

If you want a camera with backup guidelines, you should be happy with that Esky, but you'll want to mask off the camera lens carefully when painting, because the camera can't be removed from the housing. Also, the housing is chromed, so you'll need to rough it up with some sandpaper, and then prime it prior to painting. Otherwise, the paint won't adhere well.

The Audiovox CMOS2 is the camera that I installed. That's the one shown in my photos. I inserted the camera into the ABS surface-mount bracket after painting the bracket.

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If you want a camera with backup guidelines, you should be happy with that Esky, but you'll want to mask off the camera lens carefully when painting, because the camera can't be removed from the housing. Also, the housing is chromed, so you'll need to rough it up with some sandpaper, and then prime it prior to painting. Otherwise, the paint won't adhere well.

The Audiovox CMOS2 is the camera that I installed. That's the one shown in my photos. I inserted the camera into the ABS surface-mount bracket after painting the bracket.

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Also - I'm wondering if the Esky will mount up to the existing license-plate light holes properly like the Audiovox did... Do you know if it will mount up OK?

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Also - I'm wondering if the Esky will mount up to the existing license-plate light holes properly like the Audiovox did... Do you know if it will mount up OK?
The bracket on the Esky is too short to reach both fasteners for the license plate light, but it could be mounted with double-sided tape.

The kit also includes small screws to secure the camera in new holes. Alternatively, if one wanted to avoid adding more holes down there and didn't want to rely on tape, the camera could be screwed to a slightly longer plate, and the plate mounted to the bumper using the same fasteners as the light.

I neglected to mention it, but the mounting holes in the Audiovox surface-mount housing that I used were also too close together to reach both light fasteners. Fortunately, the bracket itself was long enough (barely), so I slotted the holes all the way out to the ends of the bracket to make it work.

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