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Does the GM101 rear camera program have a flip feature. Trying to find a Parking Camera. Not sure if some of them have to be mounted a certain way to produce an accurate image on the screen. Thanks
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No, the Rosen itself does not have any sort of "flip" feature. I haven't had any issues with the universal cameras I've used though. I actually use a ful license-plate frame style camera and install mine "upside down" so that the camera is on the bottom of the plate frame - this way, the license plate light doesn't interfere with the camera. When I do this, I actually have to turn the camera over as well (or else the image is upside down). With the type I use, the same can be easily removed from the plate frame and flipped over as needed. I can supply some links if you are interested in a license-plate-frame type camera.

Also, some camera provide parking grid lines and some don't. Again, the Rosen itself does not provide the lines, so if you want them, make sure the camera you purchase supplied them.

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No, the Rosen itself does not have any sort of "flip" feature. I haven't had any issues with the universal cameras I've used though. I actually use a ful license-plate frame style camera and install mine "upside down" so that the camera is on the bottom of the plate frame - this way, the license plate light doesn't interfere with the camera. When I do this, I actually have to turn the camera over as well (or else the image is upside down). With the type I use, the same can be easily removed from the plate frame and flipped over as needed. I can supply some links if you are interested in a license-plate-frame type camera.

Also, some camera provide parking grid lines and some don't. Again, the Rosen itself does not provide the lines, so if you want them, make sure the camera you purchase supplied them.

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I've kind of been looking at this one:




I like the little "butterfly" ones, but I can't tell which way they should mount to have a correct picture on the monitor.
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And then you have the mirrored or non-mirrored. This is giving me a headache
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You want one with a "mirror" image. The VAST majority provide a "mirror" image - if the description doesn't specify, then it provides a mirror image (mirror image is the "normal" way).

However, the reason that I recommend a full license-plate-frame style is because the Impala only has license-plate screws for the top two holes - and if you install the camera at the top, the license-plate light interferes with the image (it "washes out" the backup camera image). With the full license-plate style camera, you can just install it "upside down" and turn the camera around (the camera can be removed and "flipped" over on most, but not all). This way the license plate light doesn't interfere with the image at all.

Alternatively, if you really like the license plate "bar" style cameras, you can drill holes and made the bottom 2 license plate mounting locations "functional" (at least one other member has done this). Or, you can get a non-license-plate style backup camera. I've found that the full-frame license plate cameras work out really well though - and the camera doesn't stick out as much (visually) as the "bar" type. The sell both stainless steel and black versions of the full-frame type.

Beyond the style of backup camera, you also want to make sure it's waterproof and, in my opinion, get an *IR*-based night vision type (instead of the LED light night vision type). The IR type doesn't "light up" - it works off of infrared tech - and it works really well - you can always see what's behind you, even in complete darkness. And, of course, there are also different camera technologies as well, with CMOS being less expensive (and lower quality image) and CCD being more expensive and higher quality image (generally speaking). Most cameras that you get for under $100 are the CMOS type. But to be honest, they produce image quality that is perfectly fine for this type of use. I've went through 2 different cameras now and they were both under $40, I believe (I broke the first one myself - don't ask). :-)

One other thing that I noticed is that a lot of the IR cameras now have red-colored "covers", which cause the night image to have a red tint to them. My first camera had clear-colored IR sensors and it produced a better night image (was basically black and white instead of the red'ish color of my current one). I definitely preferred the first one with the clear IR sensors.

That's the end of my backup camera "crash course". :-) Please speak up if you have any questions of if you are looking for recommendations!

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You want one with a "mirror" image. The VAST majority provide a "mirror" image - if the description doesn't specify, then it provides a mirror image (mirror image is the "normal" way).

However, the reason that I recommend a full license-plate-frame style is because the Impala only has license-plate screws for the top two holes - and if you install the camera at the top, the license-plate light interferes with the image (it "washes out" the backup camera image). With the full license-plate style camera, you can just install it "upside down" and turn the camera around (the camera can be removed and "flipped" over on most, but not all). This way the license plate light doesn't interfere with the image at all.

Alternatively, if you really like the license plate "bar" style cameras, you can drill holes and made the bottom 2 license plate mounting locations "functional" (at least one other member has done this). Or, you can get a non-license-plate style backup camera. I've found that the full-frame license plate cameras work out really well though - and the camera doesn't stick out as much (visually) as the "bar" type. The sell both stainless steel and black versions of the full-frame type.

Beyond the style of backup camera, you also want to make sure it's waterproof and, in my opinion, get an *IR*-based night vision type (instead of the LED light night vision type). The IR type doesn't "light up" - it works off of infrared tech - and it works really well - you can always see what's behind you, even in complete darkness. And, of course, there are also different camera technologies as well, with CMOS being less expensive (and lower quality image) and CCD being more expensive and higher quality image (generally speaking). Most cameras that you get for under $100 are the CMOS type. But to be honest, they produce image quality that is perfectly fine for this type of use. I've went through 2 different cameras now and they were both under $40, I believe (I broke the first one myself - don't ask). :-)

One other thing that I noticed is that a lot of the IR cameras now have red-colored "covers", which cause the night image to have a red tint to them. My first camera had clear-colored IR sensors and it produced a better night image (was basically black and white instead of the red'ish color of my current one). I definitely preferred the first one with the clear IR sensors.

That's the end of my backup camera "crash course". :-) Please speak up if you have any questions of if you are looking for recommendations!

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As usual, thanks for all the help. That did answer many questions. I come across a lot of full frame license plate cams, so I would be interested in anyone's recommendations, My favorite one so far is this one:

BOYO Vision VTB689IR Bracket Mount Rear-view Back-up Camera with

Thinking of placing one of these above the license plate, slightly to one side, perhaps using one of the light screws for one of the mounts, but If I can find one that I don't have to do any external drilling, I'm all for that.

By the way, I ordered the Rosen, and parts.
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Someone on here used a factory backup camera mount from a different vehicle on his 8th gen Impala and it tunred out REALLY well. It wasn't connected to a Rosen, but that really doesn't matter. If you're looking for the almost-completely-hidden or factory-look, that would probably be the best route to go - but I do think that there was a little custom "fabrication" involved, so not sure if you're willing to go that far or not.

In the end, I chose the full-frame type simply because it was extremely easy to mount and I like the camera to be centered. I've also found that I like to aim the camera in a way where you can actually see a little bit of the bumper - this way, you can easily see *exactly* how far you are from things, since you see part of the bumper itself.

Here is a recent pic of what the full-frame type of camera looks like installed:



However, I did actually put a little bit of plastidip on the bottom of my license plate to make the camera "blend in" a little more than normal....

Personally, I would wait until you get the Rosen installed and make sure all is well before ordering the camera. In the off-chance that the Rosen doesn't work properly with your 2006, I will buy it from you (like I mentioned). Since the 2006 isn't "officially" listed as compatible, I just want to make sure everything works well before you go buying a camera. Like I said, based on statements from Rosen, I fully expect it to work (besides XM), but....

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Ahh - found the post about the "factory" backup camera. Maybe you don't have to do any fabrication at all! And it looks like it's actually a CCD camera (better quality) and you may even be able to get it from under $50 too. May be the way to go if you don't like the full-frame type cameras! Read through the entire thread - the first post has some pictures of the camera as well.

http://www.impalaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1395721

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Someone on here used a factory backup camera mount from a different vehicle on his 8th gen Impala and it tunred out REALLY well. It wasn't connected to a Rosen, but that really doesn't matter. If you're looking for the almost-completely-hidden or factory-look, that would probably be the best route to go - but I do think that there was a little custom "fabrication" involved, so not sure if you're willing to go that far or not.

In the end, I chose the full-frame type simply because it was extremely easy to mount and I like the camera to be centered. I've also found that I like to aim the camera in a way where you can actually see a little bit of the bumper - this way, you can easily see *exactly* how far you are from things, since you see part of the bumper itself.

Here is a recent pic of what the full-frame type of camera looks like installed:



However, I did actually put a little bit of plastidip on the bottom of my license plate to make the camera "blend in" a little more than normal....

Personally, I would wait until you get the Rosen installed and make sure all is well before ordering the camera. In the off-chance that the Rosen doesn't work properly with your 2006, I will buy it from you (like I mentioned). Since the 2006 isn't "officially" listed as compatible, I just want to make sure everything works well before you go buying a camera. Like I said, based on statements from Rosen, I fully expect it to work (besides XM), but....

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Do you remember the brand and model of your camera?
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Here is the backup camera that I currently have. I much preferred my first backup camera (Absolute CAM1500B), but it's no longer made. Like I said, my gripe with this one is that it gives a red'ish picture at night, which is not as good/clear as the black-and-white night picture the first gave (because of the red IR sensors):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rear-View-Ba...-/191763021264

If I were going to buy a backup camera today, I'd probably go with this one since it has the clear IR sensors (according to the pictures, anyway):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121734810248

The one I have now *does* provide the parking grid - I honestly don't know if the one that I would buy if I were buying today includes the lines or not (but they're really not that important, especially if you aim the camera so that you can see a little of the bumper).

Either one will get the job done though... And there are many others out there that look exactly the same (and might be the same) for even lower prices. The key things I look for are the clear IR sensors (night vision) and that I can turn the camera around (since we need to install it upside down on the Impala).

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As usual, thanks for all the help. That did answer many questions. I come across a lot of full frame license plate cams, so I would be interested in anyone's recommendations, My favorite one so far is this one:

BOYO Vision VTB689IR Bracket Mount Rear-view Back-up Camera with

Thinking of placing one of these above the license plate, slightly to one side, perhaps using one of the light screws for one of the mounts, but If I can find one that I don't have to do any external drilling, I'm all for that.

By the way, I ordered the Rosen, and parts.
That's how I did mine, using one of the existing bolts from the light screws. My camera is about 3 or 4 years old and sometimes doesn't work now. When I replace it I'm going to redo mine how the other guy did his, it looks factory!

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Here is a recent pic of what the full-frame type of camera looks like installed:

That looks nice, did you have to drill a hole for the wire, or did you just run it up behind. It looks tight to the bumper cover.

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Oh, that sucker is going in there. I already put to much time in it just figuring it all out, thanks to you, and the internet.
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That looks nice, did you have to drill a hole for the wire, or did you just run it up behind. It looks tight to the bumper cover.
I just run the wire up behind the license plate and then into the trunk via a rubber grommet that is already there - so no, I didn't have to drill anything. I think I included a picture of the rubber grommet that I put the video-out wire through in that documentation I sent you.

Also, just to be clear, the backup camera install is easily the hardest part of the install that you will have. Everything else is a breeze (running the GPS antenna wire is a little work, depending on where you mount it). The backup camera install is the only part where you'll have to do a little wiring work (to tap into the reverse light wiring for power). I can't remember if it was in the documentation that I sent you, but let me know if you need to know which wires to tap into for the camera power.

But again, others that bought these from me have done all of this themselves. And it's actually really rewarding when you do it all yourself. :-) The actual headunit installation can be done in 15 minutes (literally) - running the GPS antenna wire and backup camera wiring takes some time. But like I said, we're here to help to don't hesitate to reach out!

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Very late update. Just wanted everyone to kno that I installed the Rosen GM 1010 along with a license plate backup camera. With all the help I got here, the installation was a breeze, and everything works just like I had hoped. Thanks!
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Very late update. Just wanted everyone to kno that I installed the Rosen GM 1010 along with a license plate backup camera. With all the help I got here, the installation was a breeze, and everything works just like I had hoped. Thanks!
Glad to hear you made the jump. Enjoy it! Personally I think it is well worth it to have.
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