Jet Mass Air Sensor

rsnelson1 · 08-04-2011, 03:34 PM

Threw on this Jet Mass Air Sensor today. I would have to see it on the dyno forsure but my top end feels alittle better. Anyone else mess with these at all?

**Dwayne J** · 08-04-2011, 04:28 PM

They are crap. It MIGHT temporarily provide a tiny gain by missreporting airflow to lean out the overly rich factory hard throttle tuning but that under reporting will eventually be seen by the O2 sensors and learned out.

For FAR less money you could have gotten custom reprogramming that would have permanently corrected the WOT air fuel ratio, optimized spark, tweaked transmission shifts and more.

The aftermarket is chock full of JUNK designed to take your money MAFs, throttle enchancers, TB spacers for port injected engines, Tornado the list goes on, JUNK.

Many of us have been here and made these mistakes and we will help you avoid them IF you will listen.

ImpSS07 · 08-05-2011, 06:33 PM

Far less money? Jet's are only like $100, i'd never trust a $100 tuner.

And Jet Maf's are POS's. Next time you want to waste money let me know and you can send it to me.

**Dwayne J** · 08-05-2011, 07:20 PM

When I looked it up the one I found was over $300 maybe I looked up the wrong year or engine, where I believe good tuning is down $195-225 range.

ImpSS07 · 08-06-2011, 03:49 PM

Maybe they've upped the prices of those shit boxes, but they used to run about $100.

Any kind of dyno tuning from a reputable shop/person is gonna run close to if not $500, retune fees depend on the shop. Handheld tuning will cost $200ish for a used unit and $150ish for someone to tune it unless you know what you're doing.

94ss68c10 · 08-06-2011, 05:30 PM

i dont really wanna be a dick but everytime i read one of OP's new threads i just SMH. He;s heading in the wrong direction.

**Dwayne J** · 08-06-2011, 07:56 PM

For basic common setups mailorder can work fine.
My car has never been dyno tuned, my car does require some back and forth with the tuner though it is not a basic setup easy to mailorder tune, still managed to do it though.

**TSS** · 08-08-2011, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94ss68c10

i dont really wanna be a dick but everytime i read one of OP's new threads i just SMH. He;s heading in the wrong direction.

If he gets a Tornado, an intervention will be in order.

ImpSS07 · 08-08-2011, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSS

If he gets a Tornado, an intervention will be in order.

More like they should just ban him.

94ss68c10 · 08-09-2011, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSS

If he gets a Tornado, an intervention will be in order.

The secret is the two Tornados in a fernco coupler, because if I install a second one behind the first(in reverse rotation of course) I get twin-spiral induction, which is almost as good as a turbo. Throw in an IAT Power Box resistor and it should be good for at least 650hp.

**ekm1190** · 08-09-2011, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94ss68c10

The secret is the two Tornados in a fernco coupler, because if I install a second one behind the first(in reverse rotation of course) I get twin-spiral induction, which is almost as good as a turbo. Throw in an IAT Power Box resistor and it should be good for at least 650hp.

That was such a convincing statement i'm having trouble deciding if he was being serious or not lol

**TSS** · 08-09-2011, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94ss68c10

The secret is the two Tornados in a fernco coupler, because if I install a second one behind the first(in reverse rotation of course) I get twin-spiral induction, which is almost as good as a turbo. Throw in an IAT Power Box resistor and it should be good for at least 650hp.

You need to be very careful with that set up. The vortex can become incongruent and cause a high threshold culmination in the set up filtration box. Yes, you will go very fast, but not for long. And, when you stop, you will have cabin equalization issues.

**kingnutin** · 08-09-2011, 11:02 AM

You'll just have to pressurize the airbox with pure oxygen.

**ekm1190** · 08-09-2011, 11:17 AM

I can't wait for someone to actually try this

NotAWimpyImpy · 08-09-2011, 01:25 PM

you guys are crazy!

08-04-2011, 03:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
rsnelson1 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts View My Garage rsnelson1	Jet Mass Air Sensor Threw on this Jet Mass Air Sensor today. I would have to see it on the dyno forsure but my top end feels alittle better. Anyone else mess with these at all?

08-04-2011, 04:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dwayne J Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,649 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts	They are crap. It MIGHT temporarily provide a tiny gain by missreporting airflow to lean out the overly rich factory hard throttle tuning but that under reporting will eventually be seen by the O2 sensors and learned out. For FAR less money you could have gotten custom reprogramming that would have permanently corrected the WOT air fuel ratio, optimized spark, tweaked transmission shifts and more. The aftermarket is chock full of JUNK designed to take your money MAFs, throttle enchancers, TB spacers for port injected engines, Tornado the list goes on, JUNK. Many of us have been here and made these mistakes and we will help you avoid them IF you will listen. __________________ Dwayne 96 Caprice with AI 200cc package Best et 11.5 Best MPH 116 Just another taxi

08-05-2011, 07:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dwayne J Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,649 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts	When I looked it up the one I found was over $300 maybe I looked up the wrong year or engine, where I believe good tuning is down $195-225 range. __________________ Dwayne 96 Caprice with AI 200cc package Best et 11.5 Best MPH 116 Just another taxi

08-06-2011, 05:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
94ss68c10 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: central MI Posts: 396 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts View My Garage 94ss68c10	i dont really wanna be a dick but everytime i read one of OP's new threads i just SMH. He;s heading in the wrong direction. __________________ 1997 Camaro - Ported, Polished, Milled, Cammed. + way more 2006 Grand Prix GXP- 5.3 LS4,HP Tuned by Shady Milkman. Magnaflow, 13.9@98mph 1994 Impala SS - 98k miles SOLD

08-06-2011, 07:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dwayne J Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,649 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts	For basic common setups mailorder can work fine. My car has never been dyno tuned, my car does require some back and forth with the tuner though it is not a basic setup easy to mailorder tune, still managed to do it though. __________________ Dwayne 96 Caprice with AI 200cc package Best et 11.5 Best MPH 116 Just another taxi

08-05-2011, 06:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
ImpSS07 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 912 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Far less money? Jet's are only like $100, i'd never trust a $100 tuner. And Jet Maf's are POS's. Next time you want to waste money let me know and you can send it to me.

08-06-2011, 03:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
ImpSS07 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 912 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Maybe they've upped the prices of those shit boxes, but they used to run about $100. Any kind of dyno tuning from a reputable shop/person is gonna run close to if not $500, retune fees depend on the shop. Handheld tuning will cost $200ish for a used unit and $150ish for someone to tune it unless you know what you're doing.

08-09-2011, 11:02 AM	#13 (permalink)
kingnutin 8th Gen Antagonist Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vancouver , WA Posts: 11,864 Thanks: 215 Thanked 561 Times in 379 Posts View My Garage kingnutin	You'll just have to pressurize the airbox with pure oxygen. __________________ 1978 Caprice Classic Landau 350 2-bolt, stock 4bbl Stock rebuilt TH350 Edelbrock performer cam + intake Dual 2 1/2" Flowmaster exhuast (waiting to be installed) Edelbrock IAS Classic shocks 95 9C1 3.08 posi 4 wheel disc brakes! 16x8 American Racing Baja's with 225/60/16 Pirelli P4's

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ekm1190 aka IMPALER Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kokomo, IN Posts: 2,953 Thanks: 16 Thanked 46 Times in 37 Posts View My Garage ekm1190	I can't wait for someone to actually try this __________________ PLEASE LIKE Hoosier Impala & Caprice Club Check out my build thread:"Form = Function"

08-09-2011, 01:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
NotAWimpyImpy Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: NY Posts: 2,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	you guys are crazy!

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