CAI homemade ram air attempt

Crime Scene · 06-15-2011, 08:51 PM

Saw a similar build on the SS forum and thought i would give it a try. Not bad imho. Just needs to be painted and waiting on my mechanic to drill a hole in the fender well for me tomorrow. I thought about making the hole myself using a few sticks of dynomite, but i figured that would make the hole a little to damn big. LOL

**kingnutin** · 06-16-2011, 12:05 AM

You gonna put some kind of splash shield to keep the water and mud out of the filter?

Crime Scene · 06-16-2011, 11:58 AM

Yes i am on my way to Lowes now for the shield...

**kingnutin** · 06-16-2011, 12:24 PM

Well then, good luck and post more pics when its done!

**Papa D** · 06-16-2011, 04:40 PM

What King said. Digging it, Kane.

Crime Scene · 06-16-2011, 07:44 PM

Well sadly i have to say the install didnt get done. Me and the mechanic (that was going to drill the hole in the fender) talk about it today. It was just to much of a risk getting wet no matter what.

However, we did another mod that was just as effective, if not better:

Crime Scene · 06-16-2011, 07:50 PM

Supposedly (I just heard a second ago on fuckbook) that with this setup its drawing in hot air rather than cool. Im having a hard time believing this if Im driving and all that air hitting the intake, not to mention the fact that the fans are running a good portion of time. Anyone care to comment on this??? Thanks

**kingnutin** · 06-16-2011, 10:08 PM

The air that it will be drawing has to first pass through the radiator, which will heat it dramatically. If you look at any of the RAISS systems you will notice they fit over top of the radiator, that is one of the main reasons why. You can't get cool air in the engine compartment, but the further off to the side you get, the better. Essentially, the way you have it set up now is like placing it in front of a space heater.

94ss68c10 · 06-17-2011, 08:15 AM

just keep trying new setups and possibilities and you will get one thats good. keep up the work!!

Crime Scene · 06-17-2011, 08:28 AM

Thanks man, this whole deal is getting discouraging.

**donmateo** · 06-17-2011, 09:17 AM

Do BBody's not have the plastic cover between the wheel and the fenderwell? Just between the engine and fender well?

**kingnutin** · 06-17-2011, 10:28 AM

I would personally just try to copy the RAISS design, some sheet metal, rivets to hold it together, and some rubber hose or something for a lip seal. That would be the best bet for getting fresh cool air, plus thats the only way you'll get the benefits of ram air.

**Papa D** · 06-17-2011, 12:16 PM

Now, I dont wanna throw a wrench in the ram air thing, 'cause I love the concept... BUT I have read that the Ram Air does not actually work that well on our cars due to the way the air flows over our hood. I would love to be wrong about this one. Does anyone have any proof of concept on a B Body with Ram Air? Real data, not just "seat o' the pants" HP gains.

**kingnutin** · 06-17-2011, 12:27 PM

That would be very difficult data to get, since dynos are stationary. Even if the ram air part doesn't work all that well, it will still be a larger amount of significantly cooler air than stock, and probably than just a CAI by itself.

**Papa D** · 06-17-2011, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingnutin

That would be very difficult data to get, since dynos are stationary. Even if the ram air part doesn't work all that well, it will still be a larger amount of significantly cooler air than stock, and probably than just a CAI by itself.

I'm gonna get me a RAISS... or build a clone myself, but I was just curious. If there was data, then I could justify the cost to my wife. Anywho... Kane, keep us posted on your build.

06-15-2011, 08:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Crime Scene The Unscrupulous Lt. Colonel Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	CAI homemade ram air attempt Saw a similar build on the SS forum and thought i would give it a try. Not bad imho. Just needs to be painted and waiting on my mechanic to drill a hole in the fender well for me tomorrow. I thought about making the hole myself using a few sticks of dynomite, but i figured that would make the hole a little to damn big. LOL __________________ 2001 Chevy Impala 3.4 - Traded 2004 Chevy Impala 3.4 - Traded 2002 Chevy Impala 3.4 - RIP 1.12.2011/ Ice Storm 1996 Chevy Impala SS - RIP 4.15.2012/ Asswipe 1996 Chevy Impala SS - Current

06-16-2011, 12:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
kingnutin 8th Gen Antagonist Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vancouver , WA Posts: 12,180 Thanks: 257 Thanked 641 Times in 439 Posts View My Garage kingnutin	You gonna put some kind of splash shield to keep the water and mud out of the filter? __________________ 1978 Caprice Classic Landau 350 2-bolt, stock 4bbl Stock rebuilt TH350 Edelbrock performer cam + intake Dual 2 1/2" Flowmaster exhuast (waiting to be installed) Edelbrock IAS Classic shocks 95 9C1 3.08 posi 4 wheel disc brakes! 16x8 American Racing Baja's with 225/60/16 Pirelli P4's

06-16-2011, 11:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
Crime Scene The Unscrupulous Lt. Colonel Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Yes i am on my way to Lowes now for the shield... __________________ 2001 Chevy Impala 3.4 - Traded 2004 Chevy Impala 3.4 - Traded 2002 Chevy Impala 3.4 - RIP 1.12.2011/ Ice Storm 1996 Chevy Impala SS - RIP 4.15.2012/ Asswipe 1996 Chevy Impala SS - Current

06-16-2011, 12:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
kingnutin 8th Gen Antagonist Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vancouver , WA Posts: 12,180 Thanks: 257 Thanked 641 Times in 439 Posts View My Garage kingnutin	Well then, good luck and post more pics when its done! __________________ 1978 Caprice Classic Landau 350 2-bolt, stock 4bbl Stock rebuilt TH350 Edelbrock performer cam + intake Dual 2 1/2" Flowmaster exhuast (waiting to be installed) Edelbrock IAS Classic shocks 95 9C1 3.08 posi 4 wheel disc brakes! 16x8 American Racing Baja's with 225/60/16 Pirelli P4's

06-16-2011, 04:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Papa D & Barricade Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,309 Thanks: 178 Thanked 198 Times in 108 Posts View My Garage Papa D	What King said. Digging it, Kane. __________________ Jackass of all Trades Tri-9 Defined: 1994, 1995 or 1996 B-Body. 1994 9c1- 300,000 miles and counting.

06-16-2011, 07:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Crime Scene The Unscrupulous Lt. Colonel Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Well sadly i have to say the install didnt get done. Me and the mechanic (that was going to drill the hole in the fender) talk about it today. It was just to much of a risk getting wet no matter what. However, we did another mod that was just as effective, if not better: __________________ 2001 Chevy Impala 3.4 - Traded 2004 Chevy Impala 3.4 - Traded 2002 Chevy Impala 3.4 - RIP 1.12.2011/ Ice Storm 1996 Chevy Impala SS - RIP 4.15.2012/ Asswipe 1996 Chevy Impala SS - Current

06-16-2011, 07:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Crime Scene The Unscrupulous Lt. Colonel Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Supposedly (I just heard a second ago on fuckbook) that with this setup its drawing in hot air rather than cool. Im having a hard time believing this if Im driving and all that air hitting the intake, not to mention the fact that the fans are running a good portion of time. Anyone care to comment on this??? Thanks __________________ 2001 Chevy Impala 3.4 - Traded 2004 Chevy Impala 3.4 - Traded 2002 Chevy Impala 3.4 - RIP 1.12.2011/ Ice Storm 1996 Chevy Impala SS - RIP 4.15.2012/ Asswipe 1996 Chevy Impala SS - Current

06-16-2011, 10:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
kingnutin 8th Gen Antagonist Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vancouver , WA Posts: 12,180 Thanks: 257 Thanked 641 Times in 439 Posts View My Garage kingnutin	The air that it will be drawing has to first pass through the radiator, which will heat it dramatically. If you look at any of the RAISS systems you will notice they fit over top of the radiator, that is one of the main reasons why. You can't get cool air in the engine compartment, but the further off to the side you get, the better. Essentially, the way you have it set up now is like placing it in front of a space heater. __________________ 1978 Caprice Classic Landau 350 2-bolt, stock 4bbl Stock rebuilt TH350 Edelbrock performer cam + intake Dual 2 1/2" Flowmaster exhuast (waiting to be installed) Edelbrock IAS Classic shocks 95 9C1 3.08 posi 4 wheel disc brakes! 16x8 American Racing Baja's with 225/60/16 Pirelli P4's

06-17-2011, 08:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
94ss68c10 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: central MI Posts: 396 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts View My Garage 94ss68c10	just keep trying new setups and possibilities and you will get one thats good. keep up the work!! __________________ 1997 Camaro - Ported, Polished, Milled, Cammed. + way more 2006 Grand Prix GXP- 5.3 LS4,HP Tuned by Shady Milkman. Magnaflow, 13.9@98mph 1994 Impala SS - 98k miles SOLD

06-17-2011, 08:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
Crime Scene The Unscrupulous Lt. Colonel Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Thanks man, this whole deal is getting discouraging. __________________ 2001 Chevy Impala 3.4 - Traded 2004 Chevy Impala 3.4 - Traded 2002 Chevy Impala 3.4 - RIP 1.12.2011/ Ice Storm 1996 Chevy Impala SS - RIP 4.15.2012/ Asswipe 1996 Chevy Impala SS - Current

06-17-2011, 09:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
donmateo Resident Post-Whore Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 14,197 Thanks: 343 Thanked 415 Times in 258 Posts View My Garage donmateo	Do BBody's not have the plastic cover between the wheel and the fenderwell? Just between the engine and fender well? __________________ Need to shop? Do it in One Stop! www.basilonestopshop.com

06-17-2011, 10:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
kingnutin 8th Gen Antagonist Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vancouver , WA Posts: 12,180 Thanks: 257 Thanked 641 Times in 439 Posts View My Garage kingnutin	I would personally just try to copy the RAISS design, some sheet metal, rivets to hold it together, and some rubber hose or something for a lip seal. That would be the best bet for getting fresh cool air, plus thats the only way you'll get the benefits of ram air. __________________ 1978 Caprice Classic Landau 350 2-bolt, stock 4bbl Stock rebuilt TH350 Edelbrock performer cam + intake Dual 2 1/2" Flowmaster exhuast (waiting to be installed) Edelbrock IAS Classic shocks 95 9C1 3.08 posi 4 wheel disc brakes! 16x8 American Racing Baja's with 225/60/16 Pirelli P4's

06-17-2011, 12:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
Papa D & Barricade Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,309 Thanks: 178 Thanked 198 Times in 108 Posts View My Garage Papa D	Now, I dont wanna throw a wrench in the ram air thing, 'cause I love the concept... BUT I have read that the Ram Air does not actually work that well on our cars due to the way the air flows over our hood. I would love to be wrong about this one. Does anyone have any proof of concept on a B Body with Ram Air? Real data, not just "seat o' the pants" HP gains. __________________ Jackass of all Trades Tri-9 Defined: 1994, 1995 or 1996 B-Body. 1994 9c1- 300,000 miles and counting.

06-17-2011, 12:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
kingnutin 8th Gen Antagonist Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vancouver , WA Posts: 12,180 Thanks: 257 Thanked 641 Times in 439 Posts View My Garage kingnutin	That would be very difficult data to get, since dynos are stationary. Even if the ram air part doesn't work all that well, it will still be a larger amount of significantly cooler air than stock, and probably than just a CAI by itself. __________________ 1978 Caprice Classic Landau 350 2-bolt, stock 4bbl Stock rebuilt TH350 Edelbrock performer cam + intake Dual 2 1/2" Flowmaster exhuast (waiting to be installed) Edelbrock IAS Classic shocks 95 9C1 3.08 posi 4 wheel disc brakes! 16x8 American Racing Baja's with 225/60/16 Pirelli P4's

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